Jetblue interview!!!
06-27-2010 | 09:42 PM
#31
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I do see where Herk is coming from. Especially the part about being stuck in the right seat of an Embrear for a very, very long time. Little growth and even less attrition will trap you in that seat--at New York. Maybe I'm wrong, but what do you see the upgrade timeline looking like for a newhire today? It surely won't be the same as those who preceded him/her. Wasn't a bad ride for those who jumped on 10 years ago. It is certainly a different ride for those today. Thoughts?
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I do see where Herk is coming from. Especially the part about being stuck in the right seat of an Embrear for a very, very long time. Little growth and even less attrition will trap you in that seat--at New York. Maybe I'm wrong, but what do you see the upgrade timeline looking like for a newhire today? It surely won't be the same as those who preceded him/her. Wasn't a bad ride for those who jumped on 10 years ago. It is certainly a different ride for those today. Thoughts?
Schwanker
06-28-2010 | 07:11 PM
#33
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From: E190 FO
would you believe this then...
the original business model never included two airframe types and the associated cost increases... and it also did not include ANY long term MX since the 320's came with included two year MX programs... and the original business model had the planes being turned over every two years.
There are many more reasons their CEO left other than an ice storm. A severe change in the direction the company was being taken by the Board of Directors... The original business model was to build a name brand airline, and sell it off for mega-profit. Somewhere along the line, the BOD decided they'd rather run an airline than sell it off... and poof the founder left with a convienient excuse of an ice storm. The long term effects of this change are/will be to increase their costs beyond what their current LCC business model can absorb. Hence all the little partnerships with places like Cape Air, the cash infusion from Luftansa, and most recently an interline agreement with the most evil empire on earth.... AMR.
The cost savings from leased equipment, single equipment type, no maintenance costs, low cost labor are all vanishing (some already have), and the company has noplace else to trim down and lower expenses since it already is a barebones operation.
They'll be bought within the next two years....
the original business model never included two airframe types and the associated cost increases... and it also did not include ANY long term MX since the 320's came with included two year MX programs... and the original business model had the planes being turned over every two years.
There are many more reasons their CEO left other than an ice storm. A severe change in the direction the company was being taken by the Board of Directors... The original business model was to build a name brand airline, and sell it off for mega-profit. Somewhere along the line, the BOD decided they'd rather run an airline than sell it off... and poof the founder left with a convienient excuse of an ice storm. The long term effects of this change are/will be to increase their costs beyond what their current LCC business model can absorb. Hence all the little partnerships with places like Cape Air, the cash infusion from Luftansa, and most recently an interline agreement with the most evil empire on earth.... AMR.
The cost savings from leased equipment, single equipment type, no maintenance costs, low cost labor are all vanishing (some already have), and the company has noplace else to trim down and lower expenses since it already is a barebones operation.
They'll be bought within the next two years....
06-28-2010 | 07:16 PM
#34
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From: E190 FO
Couldn't argue with you at all.. Anyone hired in the near future will absolutely have to come to terms with the possiblity a 12 year upgrade. Everyone's situation is different but for a lot of pilots (see mesa/pinnacle pilots) a job at Blue and a 12 year upgrade is a step up..
06-28-2010 | 11:28 PM
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From: 320 F/O
"As far as us being bought, we are to expensive"
100+ A320's, options...however many ejets (trash) plus we have a gazillion dollar terminal at one of the most in demand airports in the world (that could have it's identity swapped in 12 hours) and a union-less, cheap pilot group.
100+ A320's, options...however many ejets (trash) plus we have a gazillion dollar terminal at one of the most in demand airports in the world (that could have it's identity swapped in 12 hours) and a union-less, cheap pilot group.
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