Jetblue interview!!!
 

Fingers crossed:)

(so no one misses: start sarcasm)

You didn't get the memo? All new aircraft will be flown by contract employees. Subcontracted under a new 5 year contract by a subcontracted contractor in order to save money. In order to fly jetBlue planes you must apply to a 3rd party contracted service where you will be trained by a 4th party. You will then be recontracted by the contractor to be subcontracted to fly.

(end sarcasm)


GOODLUCK DUDE!

Dont take the red pill.....

yeah, stick with the blue pill....it's a lot more fun!

How do you get one of these interviews? The website says nothing about First Officer positions.

Congrats.

JetBlue recently had a job fair. I believe interviews are being offered to some of those who attended. I could be wrong though.

Some of those, some blue darts and some from the general application pool. The FO app was up for a little over a month, so I imagine they got quite a few. They just turned the application off last week. They're also telling those of us that didn't get a call this time around not to get discouraged. Likely be more calls for interviews later on.

JB had three interview dates this month. Those that selected will be placed in a pool awaiting class dates while background checks are being done. Haven't heard from anybody that has gone on to phase 2 yet (background checks).

As far as I know about class dates, As early as August or as late as first Quarter of 2011. Nobody knows when the first class is gonna be.

good luck to all:)

There are several confirmed candidates that have been moved to Phase II. Notifications were sent out one week after the interview date to those that advanced in the selection process. I don't know how those were notified, or if they have been notified if they were not moved to phase II.

E-mails. I know one guy that moved on to phase II and one guy that got the "Thanks, but no thanks."

Congrats and good luck Rogue! If you don't mind answering, what day did you go to the open house and when did you get the call for the interview? Also, what day is your interview? I was under the impression that there were only 3 interview dates. That would be great news for the rest of us that did not get the call for the interview YET ;)

Any word on when they will re-open it for new apps?

Any idea when the classes will start for those who just interviewed? Pool for now, but for how long!?

I was told in the interview that the earliest could be August and the latest could be 1st quarter of 2011. Thats a range of 6-8 months. I was also told to expect BOS or JFK on the E190. Very slim chance for an A320. 11 planes coming, but they don't know what they are going to do with them. That is the deciding factor. Also was told they are trying to get more flying time from the reserves. Avg reserve flying about 30-35 hours a month.

I would not come to this company until there is a union. Without union representation you will be walked all over as a pilot group and then smile while drinking your blue koolaid. Not trying to be negative, just giving you my personal perspective. The committees here that represent the pilots try to advocate but even they really dont have much pull when you have issues. I know there are a lot of you without jobs and are willing to take anything, but had I known what this place was like before leaving the military I would have stayed in. I know I am just one opinion, but really ask around and do your homework before taking the leap. The pilots here are a great bunch, but until we get a union voice in here we will continue to be walked on. There is no scope, no protection whatsoever if we were to be bought and with American lurking in our new agreement who knows what will happen. If they buy us we are all going to be working at our local walmarts greeting people as they walk in the front door.

You will most likely be sitting on the E190 for many years making peanuts as an FO. Like I said if you dont mind all of this and you dont mind being based in New York for awhile then you wont be disappointed. If your a military guy/gal my advice is to stay in and get more retirement points unless Delta or Southwest is looking to pick you up.

on to Phase II. Woohoo. got the email today

Respectfully, you have only been at one airline. That one airline is NOT a regional. There are a LOT of pilots who would kill to have JB pay and workrules.

The grass may now appear to be greener at DL and SWA (and might be) but 20 years ago ask a pilot to pick - Eastern, TWA, or Southwest...

Congrats and good luck. Phase II is the background check, so you just need to not have any skeltons in your closet or lied about anything. Good luck

I agree but that doesn't take away the fact that we need alpa or an in house union. If we ever get bought out we will be unemployed, that's all I'm sayin. How do we get alpa in here, anyone know how to get the ball rolling?

Has any union airline ever bought a non-union airline and everybody at the non-union shop been put on the street? Seems like a high cost in training for the union airline.

Ask a former "MEWS Air" (sp?) Pilot.
Southwest bought MEWS Air in the Mid 80's. They did not have a union as I recall.

Mews was a small DC-9 outfit out of Houston in the Mid 80's.
They ain't around anymore. Just sayin.

Not intended as Flame to Southwest Pilots, as Pilots do not control who management buys, merges or what ever else Management chooses to do.

It is - or was - "Muse".

That pilot group had some form of representation IIRC, but it wasn't ALPA.

What happened to them is interesting - I'll leave it to current and former SW and Muse guys to hash it out, if they wish. :eek:

Thanks for the Correction or clarification.

BTW, I hope this does not degenerate into a Muse vs SW issue (ala TWA vs American). :mad: I was just trying to answer a previous posters question.

I guess what I would find unbelievable is an Airline like American buying JB which has 150 airplanes and 2000 pilots and letting all those pilots go to put their furloughed pilots in. The training costs would be astronomical. I couldn't see the board of directors or stockholders be too thrilled with type of decision.

Rogue, Most likely that wouldn't happen............

It could be most simply stated that If I were a Jet Blue Pilot, I would be very concerned about any merger with another Pilot group represented by a Union with a Contract. let's leave it at that!

Jetblue to DFW? Found this today.....

D/FW Airport officials see a lot more service flying this way | AIRLINE BIZ Blog | dallasnews.com


"Here are the highlights from Joe Lopano, D/FW's executive vice president for marketing......
Domestically, Lopano said they're getting close to getting JetBlue to serve New York and Boston from D/FW, and the cooperation between AA and JetBlue on the East Coast may make that kind of route more appealing for JetBlue, which has steered clear of AA in most respects outside of New York."

would you believe this then...

the original business model never included two airframe types and the associated cost increases... and it also did not include ANY long term MX since the 320's came with included two year MX programs... and the original business model had the planes being turned over every two years.

There are many more reasons their CEO left other than an ice storm. A severe change in the direction the company was being taken by the Board of Directors... The original business model was to build a name brand airline, and sell it off for mega-profit. Somewhere along the line, the BOD decided they'd rather run an airline than sell it off... and poof the founder left with a convienient excuse of an ice storm. The long term effects of this change are/will be to increase their costs beyond what their current LCC business model can absorb. Hence all the little partnerships with places like Cape Air, the cash infusion from Luftansa, and most recently an interline agreement with the most evil empire on earth.... AMR.

The cost savings from leased equipment, single equipment type, no maintenance costs, low cost labor are all vanishing (some already have), and the company has noplace else to trim down and lower expenses since it already is a barebones operation.

They'll be bought within the next two years....

Sidestep-
I do see where Herk is coming from. Especially the part about being stuck in the right seat of an Embrear for a very, very long time. Little growth and even less attrition will trap you in that seat--at New York. Maybe I'm wrong, but what do you see the upgrade timeline looking like for a newhire today? It surely won't be the same as those who preceded him/her. Wasn't a bad ride for those who jumped on 10 years ago. It is certainly a different ride for those today. Thoughts?
Schwanker

Mr. Pipeline, Gerry Lopez, once said about the modern day crowding on the legendary North Shore reef break "Its not the same as it was (referring to the halcyon early to mid 70's years), but it'll do..."
Unfortunately, they long ago hired their last airbus captain. Embraer for seniority 2000 and better maybe 8-10 years to captain at current pace. If you are in the last 500 here or maybe bottom 1000, like it or not, you are keeping an eye for a better deal. In the meantime, it'll do.

Bingo! A union can't fix everything, but these 5 year contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on. Once this company is bought we will all be walking the unemployment line. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.

Couldn't argue with you at all.. Anyone hired in the near future will absolutely have to come to terms with the possiblity a 12 year upgrade. Everyone's situation is different but for a lot of pilots (see mesa/pinnacle pilots) a job at Blue and a 12 year upgrade is a step up..

Lets just agree to disagree:)

I think your pretty wrong about DN, he did not leave on his own accord, he was asked to step down by the BOD because he was trying to run the opperation and that is not what a CEO is supposed to do. He has now started another airline down in brazil. As far as us being bought, we are to expensive. and all those little partnerships make this company money and thats why they do it.

It might be a 12 year upgrade but tell me a major airline out there with industry average pay that has less than a 12 year upgrade for any new hire.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T6CniVgpJa...ed_glasses.jpg

Here's your standard issue rose colored lenses.

Have fun at Jet Blue.

Hey Rogue Pilot, check your PM.

If only I could see a union like ALPA at this company through those glasses.

Why not start an in-house union? For an airline the size of JetBlue, that would seem the way to go.

Check your PM HERK

"As far as us being bought, we are to expensive"


100+ A320's, options...however many ejets (trash) plus we have a gazillion dollar terminal at one of the most in demand airports in the world (that could have it's identity swapped in 12 hours) and a union-less, cheap pilot group.