Retirements at Delta
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06-21-2010, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Guys hired at the front of this wave will be in the 50% in 12-13 years. (Assuming static retirements based on age 65 and the same number of pilots)
06-21-2010, 05:50 PM
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Hockey that is not a prediction, that is looking at the retirement numbers from the bottom number and then seeing where the 50% is.
It may be 14 years but it is all a best guess.
I can predict a good contract next time, but it that perspective is in the eye of the beholder.
It may be 14 years but it is all a best guess.
I can predict a good contract next time, but it that perspective is in the eye of the beholder.
06-21-2010, 06:57 PM
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The retirements are set in stone. What the big question will be is how many mainline pilots will there be? If we stay at 12000, or increase, then the movement will be great for new hires. If we shrink, well, not so good.
Remember, a few years ago a combined Delta and NWA would have had around 15000 pilots.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a bright future though, things seem to be moving for the better.
Remember, a few years ago a combined Delta and NWA would have had around 15000 pilots.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a bright future though, things seem to be moving for the better.
06-22-2010, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jiminmem
The retirements are set in stone. What the big question will be is how many mainline pilots will there be? If we stay at 12000, or increase, then the movement will be great for new hires. If we shrink, well, not so good.
21 years with negative growth. Whoopee.
06-22-2010, 03:02 AM
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If we get duty/rest rules this year as promised by Czar Babbit I suppose that would affect pilot staffing as well.
Also looks to me like a 2010 hire is going to sit reserve for at least 2-3 years. A 2013 hire not so much.
Also looks to me like a 2010 hire is going to sit reserve for at least 2-3 years. A 2013 hire not so much.
06-22-2010, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
That's pretty much the case always. When I was hired 21 years ago, DAL had 7400 pilots. When we merged with NWA... 7370. Today.... 7307 (pre-merger DAL)
21 years with negative growth. Whoopee.
21 years with negative growth. Whoopee.
Don't get me wrong, retirement numbers are a big deal. But no matter where you look, it's supposed to get better in the next 5-10 years. In other words, no big changes in the immediate future. Huge retirements 15-30 years from now... whoopee. Well, that may be the case, but 30 years from now, UAL could be liquidated, Republic might buy out SWA, and Colgan could become the nation's largest domestic carrier.
06-22-2010, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Guys hired at the front of this wave will be in the 50% in 12-13 years. (Assuming static retirements based on age 65 and the same number of pilots)
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