Does anybody have the forced retirement data for FDX and UPS?I can retire from USAF in 3 yrs. Wondering how they compare to SWA and DAL.

Age 65 does not equate to more guys at the top of the payscale. When one of the guys at the top retires you will have another guy at the top of the payscale take his place. The only way ALPA will get more dues money is if more widebody positions at the top of the payscale were created.

Denny

For 5 years it did....

In my three short months at Delta I've gone up like 25 seniority numbers. I'm curious how many are retirements as opposed to lost medical or other issues. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's an average of 100 a year... with no age 65 pressure.

The above lists are of people hitting age 65... It's going to be interesting to see the average age at which most of the senior guys retire.

Well, from the data that I see, in December out of 32 pilots, 27 stayed past 60, and 5 retired after 60 (62,61, 2 at 60, 53)

And you are surprised by this? I think you will see this as the new standard. At SWA, our union said age 65, was "the right thing to do", and that most of the pilots benefiting from age 65 would leave at 62. It hasn't happend yet; don't expect anyone to leave before 65.

You can't trust your governement, or your union, to do the right thing.

-Aloha

So true!!!

Last week I flew with a 62 yr old Captain and we had a jumpseater who was 63...Guy just made it by 4 days :eek:

They had no plans on leaving anytime soon

Heck no, if you did a bag inspection, you'd found a stash of age 70 buttons for distribution......

I think it's strange that the union would go for the disparity of 4 days make a difference, ie the guy born the week before was screwed.

Why not phase in the retirement age change over 10 years, ie 1 year up every two years that way no windfall for the now 63 year olds..... oh that's right, who controls the union, the senior guys....

*I'm* not surprised at all, it's what I expected. I was just providing some data so others can see what's happening.