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Phantom Flyer 12-02-2010 05:46 PM

The Real Issue
 

Originally Posted by 402DRVR (Post 909960)

I think I've touched pretty well on the first concern. There is some belief that these scanners don't even see anything on the side of the body. Then there is the obvious problem we all know of. Once you enter the sterile area of one airport you have access to the sterile area of any airport. So there are two scenarios which render these scanners useless. First, someone could simply fly on legitimate purposes with no weapons or explosives and figure out what airports are using scanners. Second, the TSA even lists what airports are using the body scanners. So they could use TSA provided information to beat the system.

So my second concern with this issue. I believe this represents another shift away from personal liberty in the name of safety. I believe that over recent years we as a society have consistently shifted away from liberty not only in the name of safety, but also in the name of political correctness, acceptance, fairness, redistribution of wealth, etc. I just feel we are taking this land of the free and home of the brave and making it into the land of the free just so long as we don't bother, annoy, offend, or do better than anyone else, and the home of the brave as long as we aren't really willing to say something is wrong, or someone has failed, or are generally willing to take a stand that isn't popular.

Let's stop worrying about feelings and start profiling in ways that have been proven to work. Other than that I think the rest is window dressing.

Excellent points 402DRVR. I believe that we all want to ensure that the passengers who get on our aircraft have been screened for weapons, explosives, behavioral issues and the like that presents a bona fide threat to our safety and security.

Until we have a major change in the thinking concerning aviation security in the United States, inside the beltway in Washington, all of the current protocols are quite simply "eye wash" for the general public. Just about everyone on this forum knows that we're just trying to give Grandma and the general public that warm fuzzy feeling that "yup, we've checked everyone and your as safe as you can be for your flight". Look at 9/11. The terrorist thought outside the box and were successful in their mission. Now we have to be smarter and provide "real security" or the next attack will be different, dramatic and possibly successful, although I pray not.

We need;
  • Adequate explosive detection devices that can detect plastic explosives, PETN and the "designer" explosives being developed.
  • Passenger profiling training for all employees engaged with the traveling public that identifies unusual or suspicious behavior and can have those potential threat singled out.
  • Enhanced data bases that effectively link with other police/intel data bases to provide timely threat information.
  • Crew and possibly "Trusted Traveler" security by-pass methods to eliminate those who pose no threat and whose identity can be accurately verified. This would be a dual biometric identification system.
This would ensure a high through put of passengers structured on a system of only detaining those where a "probably cause" indicates a person of interest. If everyone else passes a magnetometer/explosive check, the process has been satisfactorily completed.

I know I'm a Marine, but it's that simple and simple is often the most effective method.

G'Luck Mates:)

mmaviator 12-03-2010 08:16 AM

TSA Worker Accused Of Assault Had Prior Record - News Story - WSB Atlanta

TSA Worker Accused Of Assault Had Prior Record

ATLANTA -- Channel 2 Action News has learned a TSA security worker accused of abducting and sexually assaulting a woman had previously been convicted of misdemeanor harassment and stalking.

Randall King remains hospitalized following a suicide attempt. Police said last Wednesday, King agreed to drive a woman home from the airport. Instead, investigators said King took her to a MARTA station parking lot and placed novelty handcuffs on her.

TSA Worker Accused Of Assault Has Troubled Past

Investigators said he drove her 50 miles away to his home in Troup County and sexually assaulted her. The woman told police that King gave her a suicide note, his car and let her go, investigators said.

A spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration said privacy laws precluded him from releasing any background information on King.

Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Regan reviewed court records from Clinton County, Pennsylvania. According to the records, King was charged with nine offenses of harassment and stalking by communication in January 2001. A court clerk told Regan that King pleaded guilty and spent three months in jail for skipping a court appearance.

TSA has a long list of “disqualifying offenses” for employment at the federal agency that operates airport security. Those offenses include felonies, violent crimes, theft, and crimes involving security and transportation. Regan checked the list and found that it did not include misdemeanor offenses of harassing and stalking.

Brent Brown, a security expert who runs a company in Smyrna, told Regan that he believes a job candidate with a record of stalking should not be hired by the TSA.

“This type of misdemeanor, this is harassment. You’re putting a person in a public area. I would say that would disqualify him for employment,” said Brown.

Hogansville police told Channel 2 Action News that they have prepared warrants on the 49-year-old airport security worker but would not specify the nature of the charges.

mmaviator 12-03-2010 08:21 AM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...66_468x497.jpg

Wheelchair-bound blonde Tammy Banovac in underwear only hour-long airport search | Mail Online

DashDriverYV 12-03-2010 09:12 AM

Kinda "up ther" but at least she's easy on the eyes. I guess I could get used to this preotest

Ftrooppilot 12-15-2010 08:06 AM

Foreign Object ON Bottom of Shoe
 
Gross but true.

Last week we dropped our dog off at the vet for three days boarding then left for the airport. Once we reached the screening line my wife took her shoes off and discoverd a large clump of dog crap on the bottom of her shoe. :eek:

We couldn't leave the security area so she put her shoes through the TSA Xray screening. They passed inspection. :confused: Once inside, a ladies room cleaning solved the problem.

What if it was a hazardous material stuck to the bottom of the shoe ? :(

I guess a "smell test" would have passed us through if it had been caught.

KC10 FATboy 12-15-2010 08:09 AM

The US Government is going to pay big bucks for this. Big bucks ...

tsquare 12-15-2010 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by DashDriverYV (Post 910876)
Kinda "up ther" but at least she's easy on the eyes. I guess I could get used to this preotest

She looks deceased.. got them dead eyes...

mmaviator 12-16-2010 02:44 PM

It might have gotten by security but your grandma's boobs didn't or the wheel chair bound hot gilf.

Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners.
Airport Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners - ABC News


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