SWA 737-800 orders ?
12-03-2010, 09:58 AM
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SWA 737-800 orders ?
I have read that both the Pilots and the Flight Attendants have passed agreements to allow SWA to operate the 737-800. I was told that SWA had converted 23 of their -700 options to -800s with deliveries beginning in 2012 but I have not read it anywhere in the media/print.
Any links or truth to this ? Thanks.
Any links or truth to this ? Thanks.
12-04-2010, 05:14 AM
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For what it's worth, this is from "Dallas" magazine, Nov 2010:
The decision to add the larger Boeings became even more appropriate following the AirTran deal. Southwest currently flies 547 Boeing 737-700s, and all but 25 have a 137-seat configuration requiring three flight attendants. The Boeing 737-800 has 175 seats (“with little more cost,” Kelly says) and necessitates a fourth flight attendant. But Kelly says the -800 is a better long-haul aircraft than the 737-700—so long as customer demand fills those additional 38 seats.
“We feel like we have the opportunity within the domestic U.S. route map that we operate to deploy somewhere around 70 737-800s,” Kelly says. “The purpose ... is to operate those flights more effectively and therefore more profitably.”
Besides Mexico and the Caribbean, Southwest also plans to expand to Hawaii, when the economics are right. “The -800 becomes not really an alternative aircraft, it almost becomes mandatory in those markets,” Kelly says. “The 737-700 is just not competitive enough, in my opinion, for those markets.”
D CEO : CEO of the Year (Again!): Gary Kelly of Southwest Airlines
The decision to add the larger Boeings became even more appropriate following the AirTran deal. Southwest currently flies 547 Boeing 737-700s, and all but 25 have a 137-seat configuration requiring three flight attendants. The Boeing 737-800 has 175 seats (“with little more cost,” Kelly says) and necessitates a fourth flight attendant. But Kelly says the -800 is a better long-haul aircraft than the 737-700—so long as customer demand fills those additional 38 seats.
“We feel like we have the opportunity within the domestic U.S. route map that we operate to deploy somewhere around 70 737-800s,” Kelly says. “The purpose ... is to operate those flights more effectively and therefore more profitably.”
Besides Mexico and the Caribbean, Southwest also plans to expand to Hawaii, when the economics are right. “The -800 becomes not really an alternative aircraft, it almost becomes mandatory in those markets,” Kelly says. “The 737-700 is just not competitive enough, in my opinion, for those markets.”
D CEO : CEO of the Year (Again!): Gary Kelly of Southwest Airlines
12-04-2010, 06:22 AM
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When Kelly says they need the -800 for Hawaii with 175 seats, he better hire some people who know what they are talking about.
It will not do it most of the time form west coast WN cities.
Oak - would usually work.
LAX - will work the majority of time.
LAS - rarely, + will have limitations in the summer domestically.
PHX - almost never
It will not do it most of the time form west coast WN cities.
Oak - would usually work.
LAX - will work the majority of time.
LAS - rarely, + will have limitations in the summer domestically.
PHX - almost never
12-05-2010, 08:28 AM
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The -800 will also really help in slot controlled airports on the east coast. Places like LGA and BOS.
I beleive SWA is also getting ETOPS capable -700's.
Very little is known about where they plan to do Hawaii out of. But Alaska does is out of the same common bases:
SEA, OAK, SJC, LAX, SAC, SAN, PDX
I beleive SWA is also getting ETOPS capable -700's.
Very little is known about where they plan to do Hawaii out of. But Alaska does is out of the same common bases:
SEA, OAK, SJC, LAX, SAC, SAN, PDX
12-05-2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
When Kelly says they need the -800 for Hawaii with 175 seats, he better hire some people who know what they are talking about.
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