I heard ATC on guard and Washington Center call Delta to contact Giant Killer last night. I've never heard civilian deal with Giant Killer...any idea what that would be about?

 

Transit through Giant Killer's area of control.

 

Giant Killer is the Oceanic Airspace South a New York Oceanic. Normally it is mostly military, but when we go to Africa we generally coast out over ORF which is "Giant Killer" airspace.

Pull out an Oceanic Chart it is right there.

 

Good stuff! Thanks.

 

There is another guy out there called "sea lord" too. You just talk to him like any other center.

 

They are typically just military ATC folks. Also known as Air Defense Sectors. Sometimes, they own a MOA and center hands off control of that airspace to them, sometimes they are just watching the ADIZ (borders). They are all over the U.S. but you are most likely to encounter them near a coastline. Any clearance you get from them, treat just like a civilian ATC clearance. Don't disregard them, they are usually talking to, or have the direct line to, all the fighters in the local area. My only complaint is they seem to do Guard checks every 5 minutes and garbage up the radio, both UHF and VHF.

 

What's exactly is a "giant killer"? The callsign of some military ATC unit?

 

If you REALLY want to know

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Some light reading for you Senior Skipper.

USMCFLYR

 

I think I'm more lost than when I started.

 

Navy talk is not the clearest means of communication.


GIANT KILLER is a military Air Traffic Control (ATC) call sign used within certain regions of the contiguous United States (CONUS). The call sign is given to air traffic controllers responsible for flight operations within restricted military airspace reserved for combat training exercises. The call sign is commonly published in NOTAMs that designate restricted airspace reserved for military flight operations or combat exercises where normal airspace separation rules do not apply.[1] Previous to the use of the call sign, no standardized identification method existed for civilian or military aircraft to communicate to the managing controller.[2]

To reduce the confusion and to ensure standardized emergency communication procedures among the various branches of the U.S. military, the call sign GIANT KILLER is used to denote the controlling authority for a specific portion of military airspace dedicated to combat training. In rare circumstances, the call sign may be used during a national emergency when a specific controller has been assigned a section of airspace. This was the case on September 11, 2001 when US Navy personnel utilized the call sign to vector F-15s from Langley Air Force Base to the National Capital Region for air defense purposes.[3] It is possible for a specific controller to utilize more than one call sign, with GIANT KILLER being one of them. For clarity, the name is always written in capital letters with a space between the words.

[edit] OriginsThe U.S. Military commonly uses pairs of words that do not sound phonetically similar as call signs. This reduces the chance for confusion during transmission of critical messages. Most military air traffic control facilities that use the GIANT KILLER call sign maintain direct communications to weapons capable flight squadrons; the "killer" portion of the call sign may be more than a coincidence.

[edit] Safety Considerations for General AviationA significant safety concern for military combat exercise planners is the possibility of a general aviation aircraft mistakenly entering restricted airspace while an active combat training exercise is underway. Added safety measures are taken when target drones are used during war games. During such times, it is not uncommon for the military to release a specific safety NOTAM via the Federal Aviation Administration. Such NOTAMs usually indicate that any aircraft in the vicinity of restricted airspace should contact GIANT KILLER on a specified frequency if a pilot becomes involved in a situation near the specified coordinates. Certain target drones have a radar signature that is comparable to many single engine aircraft commonly used within the General Aviation community. Use of a common call sign like GIANT KILLER reduces the time needed to clarify the origin of critical safety messages.

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