Originally Posted by slumav505
(Post 977445)
+1 to that
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
(Post 977450)
Not necessarily. Thanks to you, the majors very well could continue to downsize outsourcing flying 100 seat jets to regionals. Better plan RAH being your career destination. That way you won't be disappointed, especially since your willingness to fly for peanuts reinforces management's perception that pilots are cheap.
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Originally Posted by jetlink
(Post 977454)
I wouldn't be so sure, UA plans for dealing with increased in retirements, is to outsource as many block hours as they can to regionals operating bigger A/Cs. Not a good sign.
that's why scope is so important. this industry is in for a fight over the next 10 years. United can have the plans they want but if this 1500 hour thing goes down and these duty rules don't get messed with there may not be much left to outsource too. |
Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Thanks to you, the majors very well could continue to downsize outsourcing flying 100 seat jets to regionals.
Kinda like 76 seat jets... And 70 seat jets... And 50 seat jets... |
Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
(Post 977450)
Not necessarily. Thanks to you, the majors very well could continue to downsize outsourcing flying 100 seat jets to regionals. Better plan RAH being your career destination. That way you won't be disappointed, especially since your willingness to fly for peanuts reinforces management's perception that pilots are cheap.
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Originally Posted by merlyn1343
(Post 977491)
Not all want to work for ANY regional but like me and MANY other fellow pilots who don't have a job and have a house and kids and so on and so on we have to do what we have to do to pay the bills.....yes I agree working for any regional is not going to make you rich but it will at least give those of us out of a job and some kind of since of worth. I am a 4700 TT pilot with 4000+ jet/Turbine 2 types and a clean record and cannot get a interview with any respectable Major airline.. So if all I can get right now is peanuts then so be it... SO what if I get more TT and another type the way I see it is I am increasing my worth when I do get a call from a Major... just my .02 worth
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 977488)
100 seat flying can only be outsourced to regionals if mainline pilots allow for it to happen.
Your post above may have been true a decade ago, but times have changed. A320 flying has been outsourced at Delta Air Lines. We didn't "allow" for that, we negotiated specific language against that. But our union will not fight to defend it. Understand now? Carl |
Originally Posted by merlyn1343
(Post 977491)
Not all want to work for ANY regional but like me and MANY other fellow pilots who don't have a job and have a house and kids and so on and so on we have to do what we have to do to pay the bills.....
I had been furloughed 4 times by 1982 when American Airlines sent me a note to come and interview for a pilot slot under their all new "B scale." When I found out what a B scale meant, I turned down the interview. I REALLY needed the work, but I found a corporate job instead. If you're not prepared to do that, you're probably dooming yourself to be a regional lifer. But more importantly, your work is destroying a once proud profession by agreeing to work under any terms.
Originally Posted by merlyn1343
(Post 977491)
So if all I can get right now is peanuts then so be it...
Originally Posted by merlyn1343
(Post 977491)
SO what if I get more TT and another type the way I see it is I am increasing my worth when I do get a call from a Major... just my .02 worth
Carl |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 977488)
100 seat flying can only be outsourced to regionals if mainline pilots allow for it to happen.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 977521)
This is illustrative of a HUGE problem for the pilot profession. "We have to do what we have to do to pay the bills..." Really? Even if it means your actions are shrinking the very companies that you hope to join one day? How do you justify your actions that keep food on your table, but require furloughs from the majors? Don't the food on THOSE guys tables count?
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