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Imapilot2 04-08-2011 11:47 AM

Bedford....no more Delta flying for you
 
Bedford will have to choose. No more Delta flying or reverse everything he just did with Frontier and Midwest. It will take a while but one or the other will occur.

satchip 04-08-2011 12:36 PM

Hidden camera video of why Carl is fighting the scope battle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lYm0...yer_detailpage

satchip 04-08-2011 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 977600)

Just remember the closing scene...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pobj...yer_detailpage

170Homie 04-08-2011 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 977579)
That's correct. It may not have been the case decades ago, but it damn sure is now. You'll understand it when your pay is seen as too high, and your job is outsourced to the next guy from another pilot puppy mill who will do your job to gain experience. Experience needed so he can hire on with a big regional some day. Then you'll get it...maybe.



Not always true. But it IS true if your hope is to get to a major some day. The work you're doing is slowing the growth of the majors, and as such, your chances of ever working for a major. Do you not see that?



That is exactly correct. It's what I did when I was furloughed. I actually worked a construction job in California for a while and made pretty good money. It never caused another pilot to get furloughed. Yes...God forbid I would ever have done something like that.

Carl

Lol, OK Cap! Good luck with your cause. Seeing how i'm not that good with a nailgun, i'll stick with flying to put food on MY family's plate.

Flamer 04-08-2011 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by 170Homie (Post 977654)
Lol, OK Cap! Good luck with your cause. Seeing how i'm not that good with a nailgun, i'll stick with flying to put food on MY family's plate.

Ramen noodles

170Homie 04-08-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 977658)
Ramen noodles

Na, to much sodium :D

TurboDog 04-08-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 977579)
That's correct. It may not have been the case decades ago, but it damn sure is now. You'll understand it when your pay is seen as too high, and your job is outsourced to the next guy from another pilot puppy mill who will do your job to gain experience. Experience needed so he can hire on with a big regional some day. Then you'll get it...maybe.

Carl

Correct me if I am wrong, but almost every regional out there tells their pilots that they make too much money. In fact over the past 5 years many have taken pay cuts, "because they make too much money." They ARE whipsawed against other regionals with puppy mill pilots that also need to build time.

Pretty sure if anyone gets IT, it's the guy who's making 20K a year and still has his pay cut. Guys are applying for food stamps. Try it sometime. It's HUMBLING.

HotMamaPilot 04-08-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 977607)
Bedford will have to choose. No more Delta flying or reverse everything he just did with Frontier and Midwest. It will take a while but one or the other will occur.

Why would he have to choose? S5 and chq do all the dal flying. What does this have to do with repub airlines and f9? No scope violation as far as I can see.

zoooropa 04-08-2011 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 977488)
100 seat flying can only be outsourced to regionals if mainline pilots allow for it to happen.

Kinda like 76 seat jets...

And 70 seat jets...

And 50 seat jets...

Too late, the flying will not be a CPA. It will be a codeshare. Scope has been rendered meaningless. Sigh.

forgot to bid 04-08-2011 03:39 PM

Problem is that regional pilots have been applying for food stamps since the inception of regional airlines. Was it Coex back in 1999 or 2000 that sent letters out warning pilots not to wear their uniforms again in the welfare lines?

I met a FAA inspector once who was just the nicest guy, but up there in years. We got to talking and he told me that he had just gotten his commercial in the mid to late 60s when TWA asked him to interview. He got a job flying sideways on the Connie I believe and upgraded to Captain in a time span that made me say wow and that's when coex had 1 year ATR/120 and 2.5 year E145 upgrades. but that's when regional flying was in house and not every flight was nonstop to a hub.


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