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Old 01-01-2012 | 12:45 PM
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If it were up to me, LEC reps would only get what ever the ALV is every month, and no $1,000 override for a lawn crew, every month.


Timbo,

You are aware that your "LEC REPS" do not receive any sort of override whatsoever correct? They do not get trip drops for any LEC business. Representing pilots in the CP office? Off days. LEC meetings? Off days. In the larger bases you have Reps that are going to the airport 16 days a month to fly and then 8 or 9 days a month doing representations etc. This work does not get done by magic. I am sure there will be a flood of candidates for the election next year to take advantage of this really good deal. I hope that anyone who is considering running whether it be DALPA or DPA, will follow a large base rep around for a month and see if it is really such a sweet deal that some make it out to be.... If you value your free time, don't do it.
Old 01-01-2012 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
I just made my New Year's resolution, which is to sign off this board. It has grown tiresome and redundant
Translation: "My worn out DALPA drivel is not working, so I quit."
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"DALPA won't deliver on C2012--I better take cover and submit my application to management."

Good riddance. The only thing tiresome and redundant are your asinine, company-funded-talking-points, including "commuting is a choice" at Delta.
Old 01-01-2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco

You are aware that your "LEC REPS" do not receive any sort of override whatsoever correct? They do not get trip drops for any LEC business. Representing pilots in the CP office? Off days. LEC meetings? Off days. In the larger bases you have Reps that are going to the airport 16 days a month to fly and then 8 or 9 days a month doing representations etc.
You are wrong. They do get ALPA trip drops. I agree they work hard and if you value free time don't do it, but they do get ALPA drops.
Old 01-01-2012 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
Translation: "My worn out DALPA drivel is not working, so I quit."
and/or
"DALPA won't deliver on C2012--I better take cover and submit my application to management."

Good riddance. The only thing tiresome and redundant are your asinine, company-funded-talking-points, including "commuting is a choice" at Delta.
A few people on here try to refute a barrage of DPA half truths and lies and he's called asinine ? I like listening to both sides, I can make up my own mind. I don't believe all of what ALPA put's out but I really dislike the DPA supporters on here that attack anything that even sounds like it's pro ALPA with usually nothing but BS. If this group is representative of the DPA then they will never get my support or vote. I'm going to try and quit this addiction also,it's become very predictable and boring.
Old 01-01-2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by finis72
A few people on here try to refute a barrage of DPA half truths and lies and he's called asinine ? I like listening to both sides, I can make up my own mind. I don't believe all of what ALPA put's out but I really dislike the DPA supporters on here that attack anything that even sounds like it's pro ALPA with usually nothing but BS. If this group is representative of the DPA then they will never get my support or vote. I'm going to try and quit this addiction also,it's become very predictable and boring.
If DALPA produces a weak TA for this next contract, you may very well get out voted. No pressure DALPA, $35 million in dues each year is at stake!
Old 01-01-2012 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Click on the link below, then in the box "Union Name by Abbreviation" select Airline Pilots Association from the dropdown menu. Then on the bottom from the box "Report Type" select LM-2, then hit submit. When the report list populates, select the last one 000-179 2010 Report.

Organization Query Page (Disclosure)

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Some big numbers in the report!
Old 01-01-2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
You are wrong. They do get ALPA trip drops. I agree they work hard and if you value free time don't do it, but they do get ALPA drops.
Nope, you are wrong, they don't get FPL for any of the LEC business Ron mentioned, which is what takes up most of their time. If you doubt me, call your rep and find out. They get paid what they hold and what they bid, just like every other line pilot. If they get FPL, it's for MEC business, such as an MEC meeting or lounge visit. Most of the work they do they do without any compensation.
Old 01-01-2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
Nope, you are wrong, they don't get FPL for any of the LEC business Ron mentioned, which is what takes up most of their time. If you doubt me, call your rep and find out. They get paid what they hold and what they bid, just like every other line pilot. If they get FPL, it's for MEC business, such as an MEC meeting or lounge visit. Most of the work they do they do without any compensation.
Hmm, awful lot of ALPA trip drops on their schedules for it all to be "MEC" business.
Old 01-01-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Hmm, awful lot of ALPA trip drops on their schedules for it all to be "MEC" business.
Well then, man up and give them a call. Let us know what you find out.
Old 01-01-2012 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by finis72
A few people on here try to refute a barrage of DPA half truths and lies and he's called asinine ?
Which "DPA half-truths and lies" are you referring to? To the extent that any exist, I'd certainly be interested to hear what they are--and would happily endeavor to join you in exposing them, should you be correct. Can you please name one?

A question for you: Why would anyone acting as a spokesman for DALPA (such as Pineapple Guy) parrot the company's "commuting is a choice" line? How does that further our goal of improving our QOL?

More to the point: If DALPA publicly rolls over for the company on matters such as this, what must they be sandbagging behind closed doors?

DALPA's track record of obstructionism, obfuscation, and a complete lack of transparency only furthers one's doubt.

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