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FlyZ 10-25-2011 04:43 PM

I see that Ed called the DC-9 an "inefficient regional aircraft". I surely hope he is not paving the way to replace any more of them with other regional aircraft, like the E175. Actually, he can, but they will be flown by pilots on OUR SENIORITY LIST!

forgot to bid 10-25-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1074995)
I see that Ed called the DC-9 an "inefficient regional aircraft". I surely hope he is not paving the way to replace any more of them with other regional aircraft, like the E175. Actually, he can, but they will be flown by pilots on OUR SENIORITY LIST!

That's just awesome, Ed did say:


Our domestic capacity will down 3% to 5%, as we retire DC-9s, an inefficient regional aircraft. Our Pacific capacity will be flat. The only area of growth for the quarter will be in Latin America, where our capacity will be up 4% to 6% as respond to growing market demand in Central and South America.

So we fly regional jets. And DCI flies regional jets. We fly 738s, and we outsource 738s. We fly 777s and 744s, and we outsource 777s and 747s.



Like Bar said, Delta Air Lines is making great strides to quit being an airline and just being a ticket brokerage.



We have no core competency.

Columbia 10-25-2011 06:23 PM

CNBC "American Greed" on TV right now about Marcus Schrenker taking millions from Delta pilots. Guy looks about 35.
Hard to believe this guy bilked hundreds of pilots. Anyone know the scoop?

News Headlines

Superpilot92 10-25-2011 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1075046)
CNBC "American Greed" on TV right now about Marcus Schrenker taking millions from Delta pilots. Guy looks about 35.
Hard to believe this guy bilked hundreds of pilots. Anyone know the scoop?

News Headlines

He's in prison now I believe and broke

hoserpilot 10-25-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1074976)


The transcript may be wrong. When I listened to the webcast this morning I swear I heard "dc-9 AND less efficient regional a/c."

FlyZ 10-25-2011 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1075067)
The transcript may be wrong. When I listened to the webcast this morning I swear I heard "dc-9 AND less efficient regional a/c."

Hoser, I bet you're right. That would make more sense in the context, and typically they lump those two together so we don't feel so bad when they park the 9s. Thanks.

gloopy 10-25-2011 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1075075)
Hoser, I bet you're right. That would make more sense in the context, and typically they lump those two together so we don't feel so bad when they park the 9s. Thanks.

Semi-related note but does anyone have handy the DC9 and MD90 operating costs?

I'm just wondering if an MD90 put on a DC9 route, segment by segment (not CASM) is the same cost or cheaper. IOW, even though the 90 has 30ish more seats than the 9, if the total cost to fly the same segment was the same or less on the 90, that would be added capacity (on a 1 for 1 basis) that wouldn't saturate the bottom line as we could always cap the fare buckets to match the 9 and only sell the extra seats in the 90 at the highest bucket only during peak times and/or irop relief.

forgot to bid 10-26-2011 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1075133)
Semi-related note but does anyone have handy the DC9 and MD90 operating costs?

I'm just wondering if an MD90 put on a DC9 route, segment by segment (not CASM) is the same cost or cheaper. IOW, even though the 90 has 30ish more seats than the 9, if the total cost to fly the same segment was the same or less on the 90, that would be added capacity (on a 1 for 1 basis) that wouldn't saturate the bottom line as we could always cap the fare buckets to match the 9 and only sell the extra seats in the 90 at the highest bucket only during peak times and/or irop relief.

I think that's the plan with the 90 although it may not be the 90 doing the route but the 88 which is 20 or so seats off of the DC95.

johnso29 10-26-2011 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Clear Right (Post 1074970)
I have no dog in the Delta vs Alaska debate, however perhaps you should do some research:). According to MIT Alaska pilots average close to $8,000 per year more than Delta. Considering they don't have the wide body folks skewing the scale to the high end, I would say they do quite well. MIT link below:

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm


Their hourly rates are lower, so they're either flying more days per month or have better rigs. Point was their hourly rates are lower.

sailingfun 10-26-2011 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1075218)
That's the same guy that says SWA CA's earn $166,000 a year.


He actually states the average pilot salary at SW is 166,000 per year which is a correct number.


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