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acl65pilot 11-08-2011 12:17 PM
Problem is they are also selling the F9 DCA slots. That is where the value is. The 318 is not a good jet for many of the current 320 series operators. The CASM is to high.

BB is trying to raise capital and failing to do so. Time to start selling off the limbs.

I could see an asset sale back to a lease company, but that is about it.

In my opinion if they can or do bundle the slots, B6 has the most to gain.

TillerEnvy 11-08-2011 12:46 PM
Oh please, please, please let us get rid of the excess baggage so we can finally start making money again!

jayme 11-08-2011 01:54 PM
And by "we" you mean the company, right?

hockeypilot44 11-08-2011 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1081937)
Oh please, please, please let us get rid of the excess baggage so we can finally start making money again!
I don't think the pilots at Republic ever made money.

F9 Driver 11-08-2011 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1081926)
Problem is they are also selling the F9 DCA slots. That is where the value is. The 318 is not a good jet for many of the current 320 series operators. The CASM is to high.
RAH isn't selling the F9 DCA slots. The UsAir slots that UsAir sold to RAH during their bankruptcy are being sold back to them. F9 is actually trying to buy more slots.

There are only six 318s left. Two get returned in 2012 and the remaining four go back in 2013.

MistyFAC 11-08-2011 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1081905)
Yep, just what I thought. It's a tough business Bedford, why did you think you'd "have all the answers"

If I were Jetblue, I'd buy Frontier in a heartbeat. Same fleets, same enthusiasm by the employees, nice western hub, good routes to Mexico.
Not to mention Apple Vacation charter contracts to Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

FAULTPUSH 11-08-2011 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by peastain (Post 1082083)
Sure seems like republic is treating the F9 pilots much better than Southwest. Bet they're breathing a sigh of relief that Southwest didn't purchase them. So how's that working out for you guys?
It's looking very promising at this point. As for what has transpired up to now, things haven't changed, whereas with SWA, at least 1/3 of our pilots would have been furloughed, and the remainder would have been behind over 1/2 of the Air Tran list. I'm making about 30% more per year than before the bankruptcy, so from where I'm sitting, I have no huge complaints.

Bucking Bar 11-09-2011 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 1081893)
Independence Air, ExpressJet and now Republic. For some reason, the regionals are unable to break through and compete on their own. While I'm not a business expert and have no idea why this is, I have no doubt that others will attempt the jump and again fall short.
It is the network.

There is a reason why the airline business has become a struggle to grow SkyTeam, One World and Star Alliance, that is where the action is for higher yielding traffic. The other model is pseudo charter.

Unfortunately the best point to point airline in the World does not work as well from O&D market to O&D, whether it be Frontier, or Virgin Atlantic.

forgot to bid 11-09-2011 04:17 AM
What about Virgin America and an F9 combo?

Do you think Richard Branson could afford to purchase unsold tickets on both VA and F9?


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