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jimthepilot 07-29-2008 08:45 PM

I wonder what AMR would say to SW having a few gates over at Meacham Field? Hmmmm.

Zapata 07-29-2008 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by jimthepilot (Post 435662)
American gets priority handling no matter what anyone says at DFW. Arrivials, departures, and on the ground. Why would SW want to go over to DFW and have taxi times longer than their flights are? They could taxi over to the Terminal over at Love quicker on the highway than it would take for them to get to their gates at DFW.

My thoughts exactly. DAL is a better airport for pax anyway....at least for the ones originating and terminating in Dallas.

On a separate note; I wonder how many right wing Republican anti-any hint of socialism airline pilots (namely AA pilots) favor the Wright amendment....while, paying lip service to the "free market". hmmmm:rolleyes:

KC10 FATboy 07-29-2008 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 2091)
I find it interesting that DFW puts the financial screws and runs off the airlines NOT making money (Delta comes to mind), and then offers FREE terminals and space the airline who CAN afford it. Maybe AA should pull out and tell DFW to go to hell, pack up and let ALL of the passengers in the area fly on the cattlecar airlines. I'm wondering how much INTERNATIONAL business SWA has brought into the Dallas/Ft Worth economy? My bet is not one thin dime. I'm tired of seeing the "lowcost airlines" running the show, yet they can't fly a simple trip to Tokyo or Honk Kong or even Tel Aviv. Try getting a first class/business seat to Paris on SWA, JetBlue or Air Tran..... ...............and Paris, TEXAS is as far as you'll get. Wow.............. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of friends who fly/work at SWA and other LCC's, but I also remember when Pan Am, UAL, and a few others ruled the roost. Look at them now. If SWA hadn't had the money to hedge fuel, they'd be losing their shirt along with everyone else now too. These major airports better be careful as they might just get what they want..............and lose the majors in the process. I don't know of many businessmen that'll want to go to IAH just to fly to South America because DFW ran the majors out of town for a 737 fleet. JMHO

APC's #1 SWA hater strikes again.

-Fatty

paxhauler85 07-29-2008 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by av8r4aa (Post 2107)
Easy there Cowboy!!!!!!!!!
Sit down and have a cool one you are gonna pop a vessel!

Maybe people who are either students or poor retired people who have nothing
better to do. Starting with: elbow your way into the plane, fight for your seat, and then
waste 2 days sitiing round airports waiting for your (SWA) ship to come in.
With the wright amendment in place (where it should and will stay) These el-cheapo DAL travelers are only 1 step above the bus crowd.
They would probably walk if it wasn't so hot outside!

Personally for me Time is money. I could care less about saving a few dollars.

Maybe for someone like your self who has nothing better to do you might want to try Greyhound, they are still cheaper and you get to see so much more!
AA matches every fare that SWA offers in the Wright amendment arena.
I do not know where you got your facts

I get the feeling you are a big fan of SWA, You probably work there, as do all your friends.
Thats fine ,I still offer IN OPEN ARMS for SWA to come to DFW and act like a team player.
I know this will NEVER HAPPEN and so do you.
If you want to play with the big-boys you gots to play by the big-boys rules!

You say all of this like the bully who's won several fights before, and wants another.

Do you remember AA's stint at DAL? Do you remember SWA putting you guys to bed, and AA subsequently pulling out?

You and I both know that Dallas is not the first battle ground that AA and SWA have fought on. How successful have AA's efforts to fend off SWA been in these cities?

I'm a Texas native, and SWA is my hometown team. I love the airline, the crews, the product and the price. A considerable portion of the nation feels the same way.

The days of the consumer being loyal to specific brands is coming to an end. Yes, there are still plenty of loyal frequent flyers out there, but as the economy continues to go down the ****ter, the strain on the wallet will lead to purely cost based decsions. It has for me, in the sense of looking past brand name products at the grocery store for cheaper and usually identical store brands.

I think its interesting you look down your nose at SWA when you work for the airline that is hemorraging money and furloughing.

js081285 07-29-2008 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 435669)
My thoughts exactly. DAL is a better airport for pax anyway....at least for the ones originating and terminating in Dallas.

On a separate note; I wonder how many right wing Republican anti-any hint of socialism airline pilots (namely AA pilots) favor the Wright amendment....while, paying lip service to the "free market". hmmmm:rolleyes:

Not me my good man.

Herkulesdrvr 07-29-2008 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 2091)
I find it interesting that DFW puts the financial screws and runs off the airlines NOT making money (Delta comes to mind), and then offers FREE terminals and space the airline who CAN afford it. Maybe AA should pull out and tell DFW to go to hell, pack up and let ALL of the passengers in the area fly on the cattlecar airlines. I'm wondering how much INTERNATIONAL business SWA has brought into the Dallas/Ft Worth economy? My bet is not one thin dime. I'm tired of seeing the "lowcost airlines" running the show, yet they can't fly a simple trip to Tokyo or Honk Kong or even Tel Aviv. Try getting a first class/business seat to Paris on SWA, JetBlue or Air Tran..... ...............and Paris, TEXAS is as far as you'll get. Wow.............. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of friends who fly/work at SWA and other LCC's, but I also remember when Pan Am, UAL, and a few others ruled the roost. Look at them now. If SWA hadn't had the money to hedge fuel, they'd be losing their shirt along with everyone else now too. These major airports better be careful as they might just get what they want..............and lose the majors in the process. I don't know of many businessmen that'll want to go to IAH just to fly to South America because DFW ran the majors out of town for a 737 fleet. JMHO

Are you mad? Do you need a hug? Dude, you need to relax and take a deep breath. SWA knows how to run a business and make money. Who the hell cares if they dont fly international? If I never flew international again it would be too soon. As long as they make money that's all that matters. I think you need to quit whinning like a little girl and give it a rest.

FlyJSH 07-30-2008 05:24 AM

Geez. This thread is so filled with bitterness it almost belongs in the Regonals.

TBoneF15 07-30-2008 05:29 AM

By the way fellas...you're responding to posts (like ewrbasedpilot's) from 2005. Let it go.

powrful1 07-30-2008 06:23 AM

I have to get from KC to CC many times I use LUV, because in my life time is money. If Southwest gets me there faster great! If American or CAL then great. However, most times LUV wins...plus think of all the money they don't have to pass to their customers lining up and waiting in Sewark, JFK, ORD, IAD, IAH, CLT, and the list goes on and on. I don't need to sit on the ground for an hour to then fly for an hour, it makes no sense!!! Good for my block time when I am working, no so good when I am trying to spend time away from the airlines with family.

OscartheGrouch 07-30-2008 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by TBoneF15 (Post 435742)
By the way fellas...you're responding to posts (like ewrbasedpilot's) from 2005. Let it go.

EWR is not a happy person.:rolleyes:


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