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UAL SUX 02-20-2012 08:38 AM

Actual Airline Pay
 
There have been some discussions about airline pilot pay on this forum recently. In light of this I though it would be enlightening to post a little fact versus fiction. Below are my ACTUAL W2 earnings as a major airline pilot represented by ALPA. Just for reference, I was hired 12 years ago at the age of 30.

2000 - $27,122.15
2001 - $51,273.64
2002 - $75,214.61
2003 - $22,348.90
2004 - $0.00
2005 - $0.00
2006 - $29,185.11
2007 - $69,144.68
2008 - $84,951.73
2009 - $64,640.60
2010 - $2,490.22
2011 - $0.00
2012 - $0.00

Total - $426,371.64

Average income for the 9 years I was on property - $47,374.63 / year
(Including partial years)

Average income for the 12 years since I was hired - $35,530.97 / year

Enjoy!

throttleweenie 02-20-2012 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by UAL SUX (Post 1138369)
There have been some discussions about airline pilot pay on this forum recently. In light of this I though it would be enlightening to post a little fact versus fiction. Below are my ACTUAL W2 earnings as a major airline pilot represented by ALPA. Just for reference, I was hired 12 years ago at the age of 30.

2000 - $27,122.15
2001 - $51,273.64
2002 - $75,214.61
2003 - $22,348.90
2004 - $0.00
2005 - $0.00
2006 - $29,185.11
2007 - $69,144.68
2008 - $84,951.73
2009 - $64,640.60
2010 - $2,490.22
2011 - $0.00
2012 - $0.00

Total - $426,371.64

Average income for the 9 years I was on property - $47,374.63 / year
(Including partial years)

Average income for the 12 years since I was hired - $35,530.97 / year

Enjoy!


Yep, that does suck. You're being very nice about not counting what UAL got from you when they terminated the pensions, though. When you factor that in, you probably worked there for nothing.

I have not been furloughed, but it was at my 22 year point where I'd gotten to the point where my W-2s added up to more than the stole from me.

Beer's on me when (or if) you come back.

TW

UAL SUX 02-20-2012 02:34 PM

Thanks TW.

The point of this post is not to ask for sympathy, it's to shine a light on the cockroach that the airline profession really is. And you already know this, but it's important for anyone else reading this to understand that I'm not an anomaly. Over two thousand other UAL pilots have very similar W2's. That's approximately 30% of the pilot group. And this is the top of the profession, the proverbial brass ring.

galaxy flyer 02-20-2012 02:44 PM

UALSUX

Go over to the "Hiring News", the "Regional", or "Career" threads and there will be hundreds, if not thousands, of pilots eager to apply and fly at the majors. No one seems capable of seeing the industry for what it is.

GF

samballs 02-20-2012 03:01 PM

Wow, you worked way to much in 08'

UAL SUX 02-20-2012 03:14 PM

I'm glad you pointed that out, samballs.

The company (with full permission from our union) was forcing me and thousands of others at the bottom third of the seniority list to work 95 hours a month, every month. Which took me away from my wife and children for about 20 days a month. I really didn't want to get started about what my quality of life was like, I just wanted to post some simple numbers that everyone could understand.

samballs 02-20-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by UAL SUX (Post 1138548)
I'm glad you pointed that out, samballs.

The company (with full permission from our union) was forcing me and thousands of others at the bottom third of the seniority list to work 95 hours a month, every month. Which took me away from my wife and children for about 20 days a month. I really didn't want to get started about what my quality of life was like, I just wanted to post some simple numbers that everyone could understand.

But you have to. Because some young kid will come on here and see 08' as a good year. Not realizing an illegal farm hand had better QOL then you in 08'

Outcast 02-21-2012 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by UAL SUX (Post 1138369)
There have been some discussions about airline pilot pay on this forum recently. In light of this I though it would be enlightening to post a little fact versus fiction. Below are my ACTUAL W2 earnings as a major airline pilot represented by ALPA. Just for reference, I was hired 12 years ago at the age of 30.

2000 - $27,122.15
2001 - $51,273.64
2002 - $75,214.61
2003 - $22,348.90
2004 - $0.00
2005 - $0.00
2006 - $29,185.11
2007 - $69,144.68
2008 - $84,951.73
2009 - $64,640.60
2010 - $2,490.22
2011 - $0.00
2012 - $0.00

Total - $426,371.64

Average income for the 9 years I was on property - $47,374.63 / year
(Including partial years)

Average income for the 12 years since I was hired - $35,530.97 / year

Enjoy!

Wow.

You really shouldn't post numbers like these on public message boards. Some manager will see this and feel justified in the fact that we make way too much money just sitting there pushing buttons and ask for more givebacks.

By the way my numbers look very much the same, I wonder why the press never references stuff like this when quoting airline pilot pay?

nerd2009 02-21-2012 04:57 AM

What's wrong with that pay? That's exactly what Management,...err I mean ALPA want's.

Cruise 02-21-2012 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by nerd2009 (Post 1138774)
What's wrong with that pay? That's exactly what Management,...err I mean ALPA want's.

What an ignorant post. :rolleyes:


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