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Andy 10-22-2006 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by shackone (Post 71478)
What did you do when on active duty?

[sarcasm off] I enlisted in the AF somewhere around day 75 of the hostage crisis. Spent a year in Korea as an enlisted weather observer. While there, applied to and was accepted for 1) an enlisted position on typhoon chasers, and 2) a slot to the Air Force Academy prep school. While not the sharpest tool in the shed, I opted for #2, since as long as I could slog out 5 years (bonus year for the prep school), I had a guaranteed pilot training slot.
Struggled through the zoo, went to Vance, was near the bottom of the graduates of my class; 2/3s of our class washed out. Took my KC-135 to Ellsworth followed by a T-38 IP tour in DLF followed by an RC-135 AC/IP tour.[/sarcasm off]

Butter 10-22-2006 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by shackone (Post 71813)
In case they both experience an erection lasting more than four hours at the same time.

I don't care who you are...that there is FUUNNNNYYYY!!!!!

chase 10-22-2006 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Packer Backer (Post 71230)
They are so out of touch they did a poll of their membership on the age 60 rule. We all know what the results were. Did SWAPA do a poll? Or do they simply have a vocal minority driving their agenda?

SWAPA has done 3 votes...the first in the mid '90s was defeated...it wasn't a straight up Age 60 vote but it was dealing with some Age 60 related issues.

In '99 it was a straight up vote (no dollar amount associated with changing it, just do you favor changing)...it was voted 60/40 in support of change. Same result in mid '03, 60/40 in support of change. Currently SWAPA's legislative agenda includes changing Age 60....one of the founders of APAAD is from SWA along with some other major players (some since retired but still working the issue for others who wish for the change to occur). Hope that answers your question.

rjlavender 10-23-2006 05:17 AM

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ClutchCargo 10-23-2006 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by rjlavender (Post 72006)
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Where's that FDX age 60 train wreck Bob?

Velocipede 10-23-2006 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 71677)
must be colorado public schools...

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Falconjet 10-23-2006 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 71427)
Never ceases to amaze me that people will try to use the agument about the higher paid folks.:( Since most ALPA top out at 12 years the 35 year old replacing the 60 year old have the exact same pay rate. Sorry sonny.;)

Maybe so, but then that pilot is replaced by a senior FO who is maybe also past year 12. Then, that FO is replaced by a less senior FO who is only around year 9. Then, that FO is replaced by a fairly junior FO who is only at year 5. Then that FO is replaced by a really junior FO or senior SO at year 2 or 3. Then, that pilot is replaced by a new S/O, which leaves (finally) a nice new spot for a new hire at 25K or heaven forbid the recall of a FURLOUGHED pilot.

Nice try sonny. (middle finger picture here)

FJ

FoxHunter 10-23-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Falconjet (Post 72104)
Maybe so, but then that pilot is replaced by a senior FO who is maybe also past year 12. Then, that FO is replaced by a less senior FO who is only around year 9. Then, that FO is replaced by a fairly junior FO who is only at year 5. Then that FO is replaced by a really junior FO or senior SO at year 2 or 3. Then, that pilot is replaced by a new S/O, which leaves (finally) a nice new spot for a new hire at 25K or heaven forbid the recall of a FURLOUGHED pilot.

Nice try sonny. (middle finger picture here)

FJ

Sorry sonny!;) When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!:(

RedeyeAV8r 10-23-2006 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 72125)
Sorry sonny!;) When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!:(

So when the 380 comes online or the 757.........keeping over 60 guys will change the costs of that? Right George. and I'm almost as old as you.:eek:

Falconjet 10-23-2006 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 72125)
Sorry sonny!;) When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!:(

Wow Hunter, you have figured out that training costs the company money. Congrats sonny. The hypothetical captain still gets replaced by a new hire or a furloughee.

Nice try sonny.

FJ


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