Originally Posted by dtfeld (Post 1185581)

Its not just 50 and 76 seaters Delta wants. They are pushing hard to put 86 seaters and up to 11500 lbs MTOW at DCI (read Bombardier C-Series). I think the early and hard push is to get scope relief in exchange for $$$$ and put large RJ's at the bottom feeders.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-proposal.html


Bombardier CSeries Gets Deal While Qatar Goes on Hold - Bloomberg

Bombardier list a "major network carrier" as the launch customer for the C-series with a firm order for 10 airframes and a delivery date of 2013

This is pure conjecture on my part but seems to me where this whole mess is going.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1185646)

I would rather see DL liquidate and start over in the resulting gold rush of start ups than to allow that to happen.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1185666)

if this is dumb enough to even consider it, then we get what we deserve. That said, it ain't going to happen.

Originally Posted by dtfeld (Post 1185581)

Its not just 50 and 76 seaters Delta wants. They are pushing hard to put 86 seaters and up to 11500 lbs MTOW at DCI (read Bombardier C-Series). I think the early and hard push is to get scope relief in exchange for $$$$ and put large RJ's at the bottom feeders.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-proposal.html


Bombardier CSeries Gets Deal While Qatar Goes on Hold - Bloomberg

Bombardier list a "major network carrier" as the launch customer for the C-series with a firm order for 10 airframes and a delivery date of 2013

This is pure conjecture on my part but seems to me where this whole mess is going.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1185690)

There is zero chance DALPA would give up on that... much less that DL would even ask for it.

Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1185692)

Maybe 9E just wants an established rate in their PWA in case there are future opportunities to bid on flying for other airlines besides Delta.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1185690)

There is zero chance DALPA would give up on that... much less that DL would even ask for it.

Originally Posted by dtfeld (Post 1185581)

Its not just 50 and 76 seaters Delta wants. They are pushing hard to put 86 seaters and up to 11500 lbs MTOW at DCI (read Bombardier C-Series). I think the early and hard push is to get scope relief in exchange for $$$$ and put large RJ's at the bottom feeders.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-proposal.html


Bombardier CSeries Gets Deal While Qatar Goes on Hold - Bloomberg

Bombardier list a "major network carrier" as the launch customer for the C-series with a firm order for 10 airframes and a delivery date of 2013

This is pure conjecture on my part but seems to me where this whole mess is going.

Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1185692)

Maybe 9E just wants an established rate in their PWA in case there are future opportunities to bid on flying for other airlines besides Delta.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1185797)

Maybe, but aren't we (supposedly) negotiating (and from the NNP seemingly agreed to by the company already) language putting an end to the "air group" separate certificate trick? IOW, if Pinnacle went rogue and flew >76 seaters we could pull the plug on their entire operation. Let's hope that's how it works out.