I know repetition doesn't make it true, but the figure I've seen most often on DL&G is that 311 are staying until 2015.

Another flaw might be that the following language precludes the mainline/DCI block hour ratios from being enforced unless DALPA has control over the language in the DAL & DCI CPAs.

Company will be excused from compliance with the provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.

Reality is there no duration limit on the new DCI airframes either. They could sign 15 year leases and CPA's.

Looks like you found the part that allows them to blow off the ratios. This is like a game of chess.....you have to think several moves ahead.

Their plan isn't too hard to figure out.

I know I'll probably set you off on a name calling frenzy...but here goes...

We were offered your contract, and we turned it down. The scope concessions were too much to take, and money isn't everything.

Jeff Smisek was asked "why didn't the UAL pilots get a fast contract like DAL?"

His response was "the UAL pilots aren't as helpful as the DAL pilots are."

So you guys can keep bragging about how you get contracts fast, but we are not willing to take a fast deal which will outsource CRJ-900's. We drew a line in the sand, and we are SACRIFICING money for the sake of more important things. You can negotiate $500 per hour, but if there are only 10 pilots left....did you really do yourself a favor?

The CRJ900 will replace a TON of your domestic flying. DAL will shrink the mainline and get more scope out of you with every new TA.

Keep bragging about your small pay raise that you help to fund with less profit sharing and concessionary work rules!:p

DALPA is selling scope this TA. The worse part is they are selling it to the pilot group as a scope improvement. We are being told that our scope will be better than United's because we have hard caps on our outsourced jets while United allows unlimited 70 seaters. They keep forgetting to mention that United has a hard cap of 0 76 seaters allowed while we'll have 223.

331 current 50 seaters
311 on lease until 2015
155 on lease through 2019
111 on lease through 2020
Remaining are linear

Read my previous post to show your numbers are off. You also make an assumption that the company will dump millions into an unprofitable old airplane. Odds favor mine.

Is it too late to insert this clause in the TA? :D

Pilots will be excused from compliance with the provisions of the Flight Operations Manual in the event a circumstance over which the Pilot does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.

Agreed. Why is it our problem they keep signing and renewing long term leases? Dalpa seems quite ok with it.
Now to scare people they claim a "plan b" is to dump untold hundreds of meeeelions into ratty old 50 seaters (which the customers hate) if pilots don't allow them to replace them with many large 2 class RJs which will be here for 20 years.
Allowing these RJs under the tent will be seen as a watershed event 10 years from now (which is how far out management is thinking).
Schlitz wouldn't touch the 50 seaters.