You can't guarantee getting premium pay or holiday pay.

More large RJ'S = Even more SNB mainline airplanes
Higher ALV/TLV = More earning potential for me (unless you are lazy and think it ok to sit at home and collect a pay check for not working)
Changing the bid periods is part of managing the swing between peaks and valleys in the yearly schedule. By making each summer bid period 30 days long, there is a little bit less flying in each sum- mer bid period, which serves to further smooth out staffing throughout the year.
The increase in ALV is not designed to increase the amount of flying that a pilot does throughout the year. The average pilot will be assigned no more than 30–60 minutes more flying per month as a
result of this change. Rather, it allows the Company to better manage its staffing levels throughout the peaks and valleys of the yearly network schedule. Also, rather than having junior regular lineholders fall off onto reserve in the winter, there should be a more consistent cutoff between regu- lar and reserve lines throughout the year as a result of this change.
The 7th short call is only if you bid a reserve line that exceeds 74:59 hrs. Otherwise, it still 6. More pay unfortunately means more work n
Currently, a reserve pilot can be as- signed flying not to exceed the ALV. Once his projection is within two hours of the ALV, he is considered “FULL” and is no longer required to remain on call for the rest of the bid period. The TA will increase the amount of flying to which
a reserve pilot can be assigned to ALV + 15:00. However, he will be considered
F ULL when his projection equals exceeds his reserve guarantee.
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Consider, for example, a pilot who has two weeks of vacation and is awarded a reserve line. His reserve guarantee will
be set at approximately 38:00 (depending upon the ALV and the number of days in the bid period), and his line will contain approximately nine on-call days. Under the current PWA, this pilot must remain on call until his projection is within two hours of the ALV. Under the TA, he will be F ULL once his projection reaches 38:00.
Also, the contractual staffing formula adjusts to reserve duty periods worked and reserve plus premium hours flown. The formula creates an average of 60 hours and corrects to that number. If reserve and premium hours flown grow, then the staffing formula adjusts up proportionally, driving a requirement for more pilots, not fewer. Regardless of max reserve, the staffing formula will not allow pilots to average above 60 hours over time.

Have you read the TA or are you just going off rumors and emotion?

No, sir, I want all of the RJ's go! I want to keep NONE of them!

The number of seats nor their profitability doesn't concern me. I am just a pilot, not a bean counter.

And if RJ's are sooooooooooooo good for Delta they can be flown by mainline pilots. Yes, Delta can afford it.
"It's crazy not to understand that!" Quoting you :)

Ding-Ding!
If you want to fly 87 hours every months go for it.
I like my freedom to drop to 20, if I want to and I want enough bodies at my airline to be able to do that.

It is called being happy, not lazy.
I don't see anything wrong with seating home and collecting the paychecks. The management wants me to fly 100 hours. These 2 forces meet somewhere. People with balls negotiate where exactly. I want people with balls to represent me. It is that simple.

Just tell us you messed up and go negotiate a better deal!!

Actually, anytime less staffing is required for the same work, its a concession. You defended these like we should be altruistic magnanamous servants...Sorry, its a job, its not a career. And these are concessions.

You are going off rumor and emotion and propogating the poor logic that got us into this mess, just not with the payraise.

I personally prefer people with brains to negotiate for me.

Of course I have read the TA. i don't appreciate the comment. More large RJs does not equal more mainline. It means more mainline competition. Higher alv/tlv means less pilots. I never said I wanted to work more for same pay. The 7th short call will still be there in certain months and that is a concession. You are still full in our current contract but you can now be assigned without your consent to alv plus 15 if not full. This previously required a yellow slip to give consent. These are all consessions. You might be gaining some things but you have to concede to give them. The survey never said what are you willing to give up to get certain things. Why? Because most Delta pilots said they already gave up enough in bankruptcy.

Leine,

I would use this as a baseline:

http://library.constantcontact.com/d...me-Booklet.pdf

This is the SWA Welcome Packet to Airtran pilots. The average Captain pay is $230,000; the average FO pay is $140,000, according to the packet. If my total compensation in this TA with pay and work rules reaches near $140K, then I'll vote yes.

ALPA does not have my trust because they have failed to include relevant facts in their presentations and because they do not show the down side to this TA.

Elvis

In Scambos world it's all take take take take take. He clearly doesn't under the simple concept of give and take. It's negotiations Scambo and we can just take take take like you seem to believe. :rolleyes:

That sir is a ridiculous statement. If DAL closes its doors because of bankruptcy, will you then be concerned?