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06-05-2012, 01:47 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
And that ALV+15 extends down to non international categories though.
And it goes to 80's earlier point, we negotiated to end trip parking and then signed off on ALV+15. It's like negotiating language to prevent RAH types gaming our scope clause and then gave them an exemption.
And it goes to 80's earlier point, we negotiated to end trip parking and then signed off on ALV+15. It's like negotiating language to prevent RAH types gaming our scope clause and then gave them an exemption.
06-05-2012, 02:01 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by finis72
So does the extra pay for reserves, remember that was one of our goals in negotiation but it didn't come free. Bargaining not demanding
I'd rather gotten 122 an hour to make 103K on 70 hours and not given up work rules that reduced the number of pilots needed.
06-05-2012, 02:04 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The cost to the company to put me on reserve under the TA with the new reserve ALV will be around 103K in straight pay at 116 an hour.
I'd rather gotten 122 an hour to make 103K on 70 hours and not given up work rules that reduced the number of pilots needed.
I'd rather gotten 122 an hour to make 103K on 70 hours and not given up work rules that reduced the number of pilots needed.
06-05-2012, 02:09 PM
#54
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The cost to the company to put me on reserve under the TA with the new reserve ALV will be around 103K in straight pay at 116 an hour.
I'd rather gotten 122 an hour to make 103K on 70 hours and not given up work rules that reduced the number of pilots needed.
I'd rather gotten 122 an hour to make 103K on 70 hours and not given up work rules that reduced the number of pilots needed.
06-05-2012, 02:17 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by finis72
And I'd rather work on only Tuesday.
And that's a good thing because it will increase staffing.
06-05-2012, 02:19 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by finis72
And I'd rather work on only Tuesday.
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Cool. Me too.
And that's a good thing because it will increase staffing.
And that's a good thing because it will increase staffing.
06-05-2012, 03:40 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
As you should.
I saw 2 grown "professional" men acting like schoolboys today at the PTC roadshow. They had to be physically pulled apart. We should all be embarrassed.
I saw 2 grown "professional" men acting like schoolboys today at the PTC roadshow. They had to be physically pulled apart. We should all be embarrassed.
Actually, it was pretty funny. I couldn't tell who yelled dxckhead.
I thought the guy in uniform was completely out of line. They had to drag him from the room.
I think he might have been a yes voter
06-05-2012, 03:46 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by finis72
Elvis, you missed my point. Everybody at DL makes more in compensation than everybody at DCI. Our overhead is huge. it's not just the pilots. Answer me this; do you think DL would fly those airplanes if they could make money on them ? My contention is that if DL thought they could make money flying a blimp they would do it.
06-05-2012, 04:13 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
I am absolutely going to look for loopholes in any TA. When I sign any contract, I look at the fine print. It is how you protect yourself. It is not about clouding your ability. It is analyzing all the pro and cons to come to an intelligent decision. Why all the condescending post? Guys are just looking at protecting themselves long term.
I look for loopholes too. And I have looked very very hard at section 1. I don't see that which isn't there.
And I apologize if my posts come across as condescending.
06-05-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by finis72
Elvis, you missed my point. Everybody at DL makes more in compensation than everybody at DCI. Our overhead is huge. it's not just the pilots. Answer me this; do you think DL would fly those airplanes if they could make money on them ? My contention is that if DL thought they could make money flying a blimp they would do it.
If Delta could outsource more/larger airplanes they would because others would fly them cheaper than you guys are.
