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Old 06-05-2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
It's not a 90 seat airplane if you want to use it the way DL wants to use it. In reality it's an 80-82 seat airplane.
That might be what the WANT.. but they have to put 76 seats or less on it. As far as I am concerned, it is a 76 seat airplane... no further discussion is warranted because contractually, that is all it will be.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:49 AM
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That might be what the WANT.. but they have to put 76 seats or less on it. As far as I am concerned, it is a 76 seat airplane... no further discussion is warranted because contractually, that is all it will be.
255 airplanes was all that was allowed as a "hard cap" contractually as well, but here we are looking at 325.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:55 AM
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255 airplanes was all that was allowed as a "hard cap" contractually as well, but here we are looking at 325.
Wasn't there once a 70 seat limit also? That line in sand changes with every high tide.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:58 AM
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That's like driving 2 miles down the hwy to pay $3.37 per gallon of gas vice $3.40 per gallon of gas.
Yeah, but you get to brag that you paid only $3.37 a gallon...
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
It's not a 90 seat airplane if you want to use it the way DL wants to use it. In reality it's an 80-82 seat airplane.
They already have that LOA in a PDF ready to hit print during the next crisis.

And by they I mean the company.

And DALPA.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NwaBusDriver View Post
Wasn't there once a 70 seat limit also? That line in sand changes with every high tide.
Sure was C2K. That got nuked in bankruptcy though, so they get a pass on that, IMO.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:09 AM
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They already have that LOA in a PDF ready to hit print during the next crisis.

And by they I mean the company.

And DALPA.
Then I guess we're screwed regardless.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
That might be what the WANT.. but they have to put 76 seats or less on it. As far as I am concerned, it is a 76 seat airplane... no further discussion is warranted because contractually, that is all it will be.
Our charter 319 config is 50 something seats. Is that a 50 something seater?

Since we're into upping the GW for non union, won't-hire-furloughed-DL-pilots-unless-they-resign-from-DL Delta Private Jets to a cat hair under 100Klbs (even though we currently own the rights to all jobs in those jets and just won a grievance on it) then when is the line in the sand going to stop moving?

If the CRJ900/905 or EMB175 or whatever we are outsourcing is really an 82 seater in a viable 2 class config but we're "limiting" them to 76 seats, then the writing is on the wall for that "line in the sand" as well. Next big crisis and that line will move again. Book it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:28 AM
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This TA will pass and there will be larger RJ'S in the system. That is just the way it is and the way it is going to be. Once again it will pass.......
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
255 airplanes was all that was allowed as a "hard cap" contractually as well, but here we are looking at 325.
Again, if you are willing to wait 12 more years for the natural death of the 50s.. then fine. It's your upgrade/progression we are talking about.. not mine. This is a good deal for the bottom 3rd. (more NB aircraft, furlough penalties to the company... etc...) But whatever floats your boat.
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