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hookshot123 06-22-2012 08:33 PM

Plan B?
 
Richard Anderson: " if our pilots turn down the agreement. It is premature to get into the specifics of that plan, but our time and the significant value dedicated to this agreement and re-fleeting will have to be rededicated to the alternative plan. Our relationship with ALPA will continue but the near-term opportunities I mentioned above will be lost and we will no longer be under the same time constraints that were necessary to close this deal."

Sounds like Richard Anderson is saying this is it, take it or we move on without you.

Boomer 06-22-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 1217253)
Richard Anderson: " if our pilots turn down the agreement. It is premature to get into the specifics of that plan, but our time and the significant value dedicated to this agreement and re-fleeting will have to be rededicated to the alternative plan. Our relationship with ALPA will continue but the near-term opportunities I mentioned above will be lost and we will no longer be under the same time constraints that were necessary to close this deal."

Sounds like Richard Anderson is saying this is it, take it or we move on without you.

It sounds like he's afraid of DPA. The rest is just tuff talk. :D

Bill Lumberg 06-22-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 1217253)
Richard Anderson: " if our pilots turn down the agreement. It is premature to get into the specifics of that plan, but our time and the significant value dedicated to this agreement and re-fleeting will have to be rededicated to the alternative plan. Our relationship with ALPA will continue but the near-term opportunities I mentioned above will be lost and we will no longer be under the same time constraints that were necessary to close this deal."

Sounds like Richard Anderson is saying this is it, take it or we move on without you.



Nah, most people think there is NO plan B..........hmmmmm

Bill Lumberg 06-22-2012 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by boomer (Post 1217257)
it sounds like he's afraid of dpa. The rest is just tuff talk. :d

???????????? What????????

Boomer 06-22-2012 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1217261)
???????????? What????????

I put a smiley on it. Please read it as the sarcasm it was intended to be.

FL370 06-22-2012 10:08 PM

Of course there is a plan B. Does it guarantee it is a plan that will screw the pilots? No, start taking your paranoia medication.

Bill Lumberg 06-22-2012 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by FL370 (Post 1217280)
Of course there is a plan B. Does it guarantee it is a plan that will screw the pilots? No, start taking your paranoia medication.

He's pretty much telling us what could happen. Maybe you should re-read it a few more times. You'll figure it out.

DeadHead 06-23-2012 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 1217253)
Richard Anderson: " if our pilots turn down the agreement. It is premature to get into the specifics of that plan, but our time and the significant value dedicated to this agreement and re-fleeting will have to be rededicated to the alternative plan. Our relationship with ALPA will continue but the near-term opportunities I mentioned above will be lost and we will no longer be under the same time constraints that were necessary to close this deal."

Sounds like Richard Anderson is saying this is it, take it or we move on without you.

How about a source?

Carl Spackler 06-23-2012 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 1217253)
Richard Anderson: " if our pilots turn down the agreement. It is premature to get into the specifics of that plan, but our time and the significant value dedicated to this agreement and re-fleeting will have to be rededicated to the alternative plan. Our relationship with ALPA will continue but the near-term opportunities I mentioned above will be lost and we will no longer be under the same time constraints that were necessary to close this deal."

Sounds like Richard Anderson is saying this is it, take it or we move on without you.

That is ALWAYS the case with negotiations. Our MEC was very clear before this process began: "We will NOT sacrifice quality for expediency". If the early talks do not produce what the pilots have demanded via their surveys, we will revert to the normal section 6 process.

Now all RA has to say is: "Take it or leave it" and our MEC administration folds like cheap lawn furniture? Really?

The biggest problem we'll face going forward is that we'll have PROVEN to RA and Campbell that we are no different than the AirTran pilots. Toss a little fear out there, and we'll voluntarily give up any fight whatsoever. We will be bullied by our executive management for the foreseeable future if we prove to them we'll fold this easily.

Carl

nerd2009 06-23-2012 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1217296)
That is ALWAYS the case with negotiations. Our MEC was very clear before this process began: "We will NOT sacrifice quality for expediency". If the early talks do not produce what the pilots have demanded via their surveys, we will revert to the normal section 6 process.

Now all RA has to say is: "Take it or leave it" and our MEC administration folds like cheap lawn furniture? Really?

The biggest problem we'll face going forward is that we'll have PROVEN to RA and Campbell that we are no different than the AirTran pilots. Toss a little fear out there, and we'll voluntarily give up any fight whatsoever. We will be bullied by our executive management for the foreseeable future if we prove to them we'll fold this easily.

Carl


Well Said Carl.

Some of our Pilot group needs to grow a pair and turn down this TA.

The art of negotiation always places a time constraint on the deal.


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