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contrail67 07-06-2012 04:23 PM

DAL Jumpseat International Rules
 
What is Delta's policy of taking Jumpseaters Internationally? I am looking to go from NRT to GUM and it appears to have several seats open.

dalad 07-06-2012 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by contrail67 (Post 1225744)
What is Delta's policy of taking Jumpseaters Internationally? I am looking to go from NRT to GUM and it appears to have several seats open.

I don't think off liners can do it as we have to reserve it in advance so as to be on the gendec. At least that's how I understand it.

The Cavalier 07-06-2012 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1225756)
I don't think off liners can do it as we have to reserve it in advance so as to be on the gendec. At least that's how I understand it.

Hmm I hope someone with more info chimes in because I don't think that's correct. To my knowledge off line jumpseaters are welcome to a seat in the back. I'd bring a ZED as a backup if it were me though.

Timbo 07-06-2012 07:12 PM

I know I had a non-Delta (Cathay Pacific) jumpseater out of Hong Kong up to Narita last month, no problems, not on our gen dec either. He was in uniform, and he sat in an empty seat in back. You may want to contact your Jumpseat rep. and ask him to ask the DL jumpseat guy if there are any issues getting out of NRT.

acl65pilot 07-06-2012 07:27 PM

You can always flow to the back.

I went though the FOM and the only requirement was to check in 75 minutes prior to departure, and for DAL employees to have a reservation. It did state that OAL's cannot make reservations.



It did not specify a cabin versus a cockpit jumpseat.

Pro Fessional 07-06-2012 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1225844)
You can always flow to the back.

I went though the FOM and the only requirement was to check in 75 minutes prior to departure, and for DAL employees to have a reservation. It did state that OAL's cannot make reservations.



It did not specify a cabin versus a cockpit jumpseat.

Cockpit JS still not allowed on international flights. Cabin okay.

captjns 07-07-2012 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1225836)
I know I had a non-Delta (Cathay Pacific) jumpseater out of Hong Kong up to Narita last month, no problems, not on our gen dec either. He was in uniform, and he sat in an empty seat in back. You may want to contact your Jumpseat rep. and ask him to ask the DL jumpseat guy if there are any issues getting out of NRT.

Are you saying that expats working for foreign carriers are able to jump seat?

dalad 07-07-2012 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Pro Fessional (Post 1225850)
Cockpit JS still not allowed on international flights. Cabin okay.

That's what I meant. Sorry for the angst.

acl65pilot 07-07-2012 04:33 AM

From our JS guys.

The problem with cockpit JSers on INT'l flights is they are approved but it requires a IT upgrade to the company software. This is the case for many airlines, and all have not done the software upgrade.

If the OAL airline is listed in the FOM they can JS international but must sit in the back.

hockeypilot44 07-07-2012 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1225836)
I know I had a non-Delta (Cathay Pacific) jumpseater out of Hong Kong up to Narita last month, no problems, not on our gen dec either. He was in uniform, and he sat in an empty seat in back. You may want to contact your Jumpseat rep. and ask him to ask the DL jumpseat guy if there are any issues getting out of NRT.

We do not have an agreement with them. He should not have been allowed on the plane without a ticket. The list I just checked was updated July 3, 2012.

acl65pilot 07-07-2012 05:16 AM

Sure wish we had an agreement with CX.

sailingfun 07-07-2012 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1225836)
I know I had a non-Delta (Cathay Pacific) jumpseater out of Hong Kong up to Narita last month, no problems, not on our gen dec either. He was in uniform, and he sat in an empty seat in back. You may want to contact your Jumpseat rep. and ask him to ask the DL jumpseat guy if there are any issues getting out of NRT.


We can only carry jumpseaters if we have a reciprical agreement. They can't ride in the cockpit at the moment and must flow to the back so there must be a seat available. Cathay is not on the jumpseat list because most foreign carriers do not allow jumpseat access for free. Some will let you ride up there is you have some form of ticket or zed fare.

upndsky 07-07-2012 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1225973)
We can only carry jumpseaters if we have a reciprical agreement. They can't ride in the cockpit at the moment and must flow to the back so there must be a seat available. Cathay is not on the jumpseat list because most foreign carriers do not allow jumpseat access for free. Some will let you ride up there is you have some form of ticket or zed fare.

Maybe the guy was on a Zed fare and because he was in uniform, the OP thought he was jumpseating, especially if maybe the guy was courteous and introduced himself to the crew. Possible?

The question is, did this guy show up as a jumpseater on the AWABS.

BeaglePilot 07-08-2012 07:06 PM

I've hitched a free ride many times of out JFK and the crews have been outstanding. Even first class when available.


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