DOVER C5 Crash
11-03-2006, 07:13 AM
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I think it was a combination of full flaps and 2 engs.
2 engs with 40% flaps may have been okay..of 3 engs with full flaps was okay.
But somehow six people (3 pilots and 3 chiefs?) missed full flaps and only 2 engs with full power.
I flew my six month PC check this week and the instructor failed the left eng and set the right on fire. The FO wanted to shut the right eng down. That led to the discussion of this c5 crash. Sometime smart people do crazy things and if you just follow along, it could end badly.
2 engs with 40% flaps may have been okay..of 3 engs with full flaps was okay.
But somehow six people (3 pilots and 3 chiefs?) missed full flaps and only 2 engs with full power.
I flew my six month PC check this week and the instructor failed the left eng and set the right on fire. The FO wanted to shut the right eng down. That led to the discussion of this c5 crash. Sometime smart people do crazy things and if you just follow along, it could end badly.
11-04-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u
how many people were in that cockpit?
were they in IMC? cause he blew right threw the localizer
was the GPWS going off it sounded like?
i dont know about other people but if im in IMC and the GPWS goes off im give full power and go missed right away
were they in IMC? cause he blew right threw the localizer
was the GPWS going off it sounded like?
i dont know about other people but if im in IMC and the GPWS goes off im give full power and go missed right away
VMC. There were a bunch of people in the cockpit, and part of the problem seems to be some confusion caused by too many pilots involved.
11-04-2006, 05:32 PM
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This accident is a result of having too little experience in the aircraft as a PIC....current command directives allow upgrades to the left seat in as little as 1,000 hours total time. This was in completly VMC conditions and was improperly handled in many ways. Most importantly was that the inexperienced crew had over 8-hours worth of fuel on-board and they rushed the whole procedure. Had they used some basic cockpit management and briefed the 100% flaps maybe someone would have spoke-up sooner; (you can hear the flight engineer's on the CVR quietly asking themselves about the flap position while on final). The C-5 is an extremely stable airplane and this situation is easily flown out of in a sim at less than 200' by pushing up the power on the correct engine or selecting 40% flaps earlier than the crew had.
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