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CaptainBigWood 08-17-2012 04:41 AM

History of Airline Pilot Integration
 
Tell us the Story.
Would like to hear the details of how groups were integrated over the past 50 years. Also include sale routes such as Braniff to American, PanAm to United, Flying Tigers to FedEx. Discuss the current integrations. NWA/DL, UA/CO, US/AWA, SW/AT.
Also include the following from your viewpoint:
All Pilots treated Fairly
It was POS totally unfair.
It was a great windfall.
Forums are a great source of information and a safe place to vent.

galaxy flyer 08-17-2012 06:57 AM

Back to the regularly scheduled thread,

Panagra route sale to BN: nada, zippo integration.

BN route sale to EA: nada, zippo

EA route sale to AA: see above

South American route sales are unblemished by pilot integration back 50 years

GF

AutoEverything 08-17-2012 07:14 AM

It's good that you want to learn about your own industry, congrats on taking the first step in actually learning some history.

The first step is to read Hard Landing by Thomas Petzinger Jr.

Flyby1206 08-17-2012 07:23 AM

As far as current integrations go, NWA/DL was the smoothest and fastest by far. I am guessing a big part of that is DL only had unionization for the pilot group and the DAL/NWA ALPA groups played nice to get things done.

US/HP is on the opposite end of the spectrum. I dont see any way for them to successfully integrate outside of a merger with a larger company (AA). Parker is making money hand over fist while the two groups are in deadlock operating under huge bankruptcy concessions from a decade ago.

Flint Stone 08-17-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by AutoEverything (Post 1247184)
It's good that you want to learn about your own industry, congrats on taking the first step in actually learning some history.

The first step is to read Hard Landing by Thomas Petzinger Jr.

Sounds like he wants information in a specific order for a class project!

Mesabah 08-17-2012 07:50 AM

The reason NWA and Delta went so smoothly is because they both mostly viewed themselves as equals. That's the key to a successful integration.

R57 relay 08-17-2012 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1247220)
The reason NWA and Delta went so smoothly is because they both mostly viewed themselves as equals. That's the key to a successful integration.

It thought it was because the learned from the US/HP disaster and the company was willing to pony up some cash first for a joint contract, then do a SLI.

cactiboss 08-17-2012 10:40 AM

The only thing learned in the u/hp integration is never to allow a seniority list to be done before a single agreement. Had the awa/u pilots had a single contract before the award this would have never happened.

lolwut 08-17-2012 09:12 PM

Everyone knows that since the beginning of airline mergers that date of hire has been the golden standard.

gloopy 08-17-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1247606)
Everyone knows that since the beginning of airline mergers that date of hire has been the golden standard.

trolololo!


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