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lolwut 08-22-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BTpilot (Post 1249603)
Lol... I don't think anyone does anymore. I keep seeing pilots with their kids in jeans and baseball caps.

I remember when I was a kid non-revving. We had to wear khakis/chinos and a collared shirt or you weren't getting on.

Wish it was still that way

usmc-sgt 08-22-2012 07:31 AM

JetBlue employees have a hard enough time getting anywhere out of SLC. Probably the most difficult airport in the entire system. The reservation folks out there have a sweetheart of a deal (thanks to Neeleman) that gives them great priority on the seats. Due to the large Mormon population you will often see a family listed for nonrev with 6+ in their party.

viking767 08-22-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 1249667)
JetBlue employees have a hard enough time getting anywhere out of SLC. Probably the most difficult airport in the entire system. The reservation folks out there have a sweetheart of a deal (thanks to Neeleman) that gives them great priority on the seats. Due to the large Mormon population you will often see a family listed for nonrev with 6+ in their party.

Why would reservation employees have higher priority than other employees?
And my question on dress code was from watching the TV clip where they buddy pass traveler was dressed in shorts and a t-shirt.

Bucking Bar 08-22-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1249397)
I bet this employee's pass privileges have all been revoked now. What an ******* of a friend to go back and sue.

Surprised the airlines don't use indemnification clauses in their non-rev policies. Easy enough to put into policy the concept that the employee and / or the buddy pass rider are jointly and individually responsible to reimburse the airline for any expense associated with the defense of the Company for any action brought by, or as a direct result, of the pass rider.

With this policy, if the pass rider sues, the airline tenders the lawsuit right back to the pass rider and his friend demanding they hire Counsel, defend the airline and pay the costs including that of any judgement the pass rider might be successful in obtaining. This would could be broadly worded to include the cost of any advertising injury, slander or libel.

Put the responsibility right back where it belongs.

Dirty Sanchez 08-22-2012 10:02 AM

1. Rent car
2. Drive home

If you can't afford to put your family up in even a Motel 6 for a few nights, maybe you shouldn't be traveling. Non-rev or full fare doesn't matter.

Cycle Pilot 08-22-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BTpilot (Post 1249603)
Lol... I don't think anyone does anymore. I keep seeing pilots with their kids in jeans and baseball caps.

I remember when I was a kid non-revving. We had to wear khakis/chinos and a collared shirt or you weren't getting on.

We still dress business casual when nonreving.

BTpilot 08-22-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1249768)

We still dress business casual when nonreving.

Me too. I think all airline gate agents should enforce that.

gloopy 08-22-2012 07:01 PM

There's nothing wrong with a pair of nice jeans or even shorts in the summer. But flip flops, sweatpants and cutoffs, I mean really? And in first? Although if you can fill first, even international, with small children then who cares at that point anyway.

pipe 08-22-2012 07:35 PM

1. What does the Jet Blue pilot working agreement have to say with regards to buddy passes? Oh, that's right, there isn't one.

2. For all of you (us) that do have a contract: At what point do we demand something in return for this negotiated benefit that has slowly been bled from our side of the compensation ledger?

In both cases, we are are own worst enemy.

Curtis Saxton is just an individual moron who has highlighted it.

PIPE

dxBrian 08-22-2012 09:50 PM

The biggest problem was the person who gave this family the buddy passes, without explaining how a buddy pass works and what kind of seat availability there was for the airport he wanted to travel to.

I still work in aviation, though not at an airline. I have a friend who does work for an airline and am happy that he will allow me to use some of his buddy passes. But we check the passenger loads very carefully for my planned itinerary, and I plan travel dates accordingly.


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