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80ktsClamp 10-14-2012 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 1277106)
I can ride anywhere I want on UPS with a great deal less hassle than using a PAX carrier. Did you read the part about being on a paid ticket. We did fight long and hard to get paid tickets for positioning in our contract, which we use and did so when your airplanes where empty.
As too the smashed packages you should have filed a claim for damages which would have been paid opposed to the lame excuse I got for the damage to my luggage and the refusal to pay for repairs. :rolleyes::rolleyes: If you want to ignore comments on bad customer service thats up to you but, it invites competition that you don't need.

DL (and other pax carriers) ships you and your baggage for magnitudes less than UPS or FDX do per pound, and UPS and FDX provide way less than cognac and breadsticks for their packages to enjoy en route. Enjoy.

pilotrob23 10-15-2012 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1277125)
DL (and other pax carriers) ships you and your baggage for magnitudes less than UPS or FDX do per pound, and UPS and FDX provide way less than cognac and breadsticks for their packages to enjoy en route. Enjoy.

Of course, UPS and FDX are not in the pax customer service business, I guess you could argue they drive boxes first, and fly second?! It has been great reading about how everyone keeps making fun of the U.S. market of air travel, breadsticks and cognac. As an expat also myself, the level of service can't compare. I thought the discussion on government subsidies is where this should have gone?! How oil and hometown airlines get kickbacks whether oil, etc. Or is the over saturation of the free market the way to go? In the international business that is the airlines, I hope the U.S. can make some progress! Good luck everyone, and great discussion!

Fly782 10-15-2012 05:09 AM

King Breadstick, Did you get turned down from Delta back in the day?

Dirtdiver 10-15-2012 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 1277106)
As too the smashed packages you should have filed a claim for damages which would have been paid opposed to the lame excuse I got for the damage to my luggage and the refusal to pay for repairs. :rolleyes::rolleyes: If you want to ignore comments on bad customer service thats up to you but, it invites competition that you don't need.

FWIW I never put my bags below when I DH. I've had 2 damaged beyond repair. A legacy of Ron Allen's divide and conquer strategy. The ramp rats probably mistook your bags as belonging to a DL pilot.

Just flew with a guy last week still fuming about a package UPS destroyed (with insurance), claim denied.

Jesse 10-15-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 1277106)
I can ride anywhere I want on UPS with a great deal less hassle than using a PAX carrier. Did you read the part about being on a paid ticket. We did fight long and hard to get paid tickets for positioning in our contract, which we use and did so when your airplanes where empty.
As too the smashed packages you should have filed a claim for damages which would have been paid opposed to the lame excuse I got for the damage to my luggage and the refusal to pay for repairs. :rolleyes::rolleyes: If you want to ignore comments on bad customer service thats up to you but, it invites competition that you don't need.

I believe the OP actually had good things to say about the customer service, but was quite put off about the lack of extra bread sticks and cognac. Seriously, this is quite out there; one could complain about anything like this and we could treat each and every complaint as a valid concern. Where to start? Well, after fixing the problem with bread sticks and cognac we could work on why each seat doesn't have an iPad / iPod / i-whatever charger. How about a mini-jack so you can plug your iPod into the entertainment system? But point out how idiotic these kinds of "suggestions on improving the product" are and you're accused of ignoring comments on bad customer service??? Give me a break.

80ktsClamp 10-15-2012 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by pilotrob23 (Post 1277137)
Of course, UPS and FDX are not in the pax customer service business, I guess you could argue they drive boxes first, and fly second?! It has been great reading about how everyone keeps making fun of the U.S. market of air travel, breadsticks and cognac. As an expat also myself, the level of service can't compare. I thought the discussion on government subsidies is where this should have gone?! How oil and hometown airlines get kickbacks whether oil, etc. Or is the over saturation of the free market the way to go? In the international business that is the airlines, I hope the U.S. can make some progress! Good luck everyone, and great discussion!

I do hope you see the irony in what you wrote here after being one of the biggest southwest kool-aid people on this board....

Elvis90 10-15-2012 06:35 AM

Feel free to remain an ex-pat. Our company is profitable, employee relations are good, and I don't have anything to complain about. If you are dissatisfied with the service, you've got options. Most folks I talk to are very impressed with how Delta has improved and with the course we're setting.

You may want to compare the market cap & profitability of Delta relative to foreign carriers to understand just how much larger an operation Delta is.

pilotrob23 10-15-2012 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1277210)
I do hope you see the irony in what you wrote here after being one of the biggest southwest kool-aid people on this board....

Ya 80, got it! I would love to have made it to SW, but due to the lovely economy and industry, as a 7 year FO making 35 a hour, it was time for a change. We love it here and couldn't be happier and I enjoy a beer abroad with your Delta counterparts! With friends and family there, it would have been the only place I would have gone in the States. But again, moving abroad and seeing the operations and service that these other airlines run, I have been blown away this year. Again, if you want extra breadsticks and cognac, it is offered elsewhere. Good luck to you!

D B Cooper 10-15-2012 08:17 AM

I have to agree, I was on a full fare ticket from Northwest Arkansas to DFW, and when I asked the FA for another Diet Coke, she said she was sorry she just ran out, only had Diet Pepsi. The outrage, I began a letter immediately. The FA came back appologetic and offered a snack. I asked for the almonds but all she had was trail mix. As you can see my flight just got worse from there.

tsquare 10-15-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by 757upspilot (Post 1277106)
I can ride anywhere I want on UPS with a great deal less hassle than using a PAX carrier. Did you read the part about being on a paid ticket. We did fight long and hard to get paid tickets for positioning in our contract, which we use and did so when your airplanes where empty.
As too the smashed packages you should have filed a claim for damages which would have been paid opposed to the lame excuse I got for the damage to my luggage and the refusal to pay for repairs. :rolleyes::rolleyes: If you want to ignore comments on bad customer service thats up to you but, it invites competition that you don't need.

I don't think anybody here is ignoring the issue. But what in the hell do you want us to do about it? You come on here throwing insults around like there is something we can do about it.. well guess what.. we can't. Any more than you can guarantee delivery by the little brown trucks when they say they are gonna arrive.. or that the driver isn't gonna leave the package where they have been told not to.. .and watch it floating down the canal... so **** and complain to somebody that can do something about your problem.


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