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Jetblue rants
A few "poolie" related highlights from the monthly pilot conference call with COO: - Expecting 6-7% ASM growth for 2013. - New service JFK-ABQ announced (At the same time, reductions for BUR and PIT were also announced on company website). - Hinted some FLL growth probable in the future. - Possible 3 additional E190 deliveries for 2013. These growth airplanes would also be available to support any issues with A321 deliveries that are scheduled to begin October 2013. This would mean 30 additional new hires for 2013 on top of current plans. - Expecting hiring window to open early 2013. - Bluedart program being revamped, no details provided. Overall, painted a somewhat rosy picture, but things could change at any time. {Break} Highlights somewhat unrelated to hiring/class dates for those who can't get their blue pilots fix right now: - Expect to hear decision on yearly pay review in next couple weeks. - With looming pilot shortage, expect to see increases in compensation going forward to help with pilot retention/attraction. - ALPA only wants in our pockets and wouldn't care about us since we'd be a Tier B carrier. - Singled out one of our pilot bases as having poor attitudes. - Company seems to be leaning towards denying proposed change to provide international pay override to all international destinations, collecting cost data on it soon. It was noted that a lot of our international destinations, such as STT, SXM, etc, are not very challenging, compared to other places that are. All I can say on that one is wow. - Lots of talks with Airbus about wide range of topics. Sharklet retrofits, A320 neos, 2 aisle airplanes, etc. Remember, I'm just the messenger. *** is up with no international override? Too easy?! I'd like to see Rob fly the plane into STI in the middle of the night with the fog rolling in. GFY! The recent PVC survey had 98%+ response that we should be paid international override for these destinations. Sadly, it just proves how little influence the PVC has, despite all their efforts. I do believe the PVC has some good people on it, but the company doesnt give a crap. |
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 1293374)
This was the recent COO call cut and pasted from another thread (I didnt actually hear the call).
*** is up with no international override? Too easy?! I'd like to see Rob fly the plane into STI in the middle of the night with the fog rolling in. GFY! The recent PVC survey had 98%+ response that we should be paid international override for these destinations. Sadly, it just proves how little influence the PVC has, despite all their efforts. I do believe the PVC has some good people on it, but the company doesnt give a crap. SS was the one who fielded the question, but I agree 100%. Said our international flying doesn't quite compare to Middle East or Africa flying. I haven't flown in either of those places, but our international flying is certainly no walk in the park and presents its own unique challenges. I think it's crazy that bias can play a role in the decision. They're international destinations, stop playing games. You're right, it really does go to show you how little power the student council, sorry PVC, has over things. |
Lets be very clear about the "FLL" pilots comments. During the base meeting the FLL pilots pointed out the shortfalls of the insurance changes, the limits to disability and the comparisons of JetBlue insurance compared to other carriers and even the lack of merger protection in the PEA. At each turn the company spin was met with factual data proving how far behind we were and unprotected the pilot group was.
JetBlue leadership was unhappy about being called out while having their "facts" disputed by actual data. Subsequent base meetings no longer provided a format to publicly as questions. In essence the leadership representatives were caught lying about our benefits. |
Originally Posted by benzoate
(Post 1293391)
Subsequent base meetings no longer provided a format to publicly as questions. In essence the leadership representatives were caught lying about our benefits.
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when is the merger with Virgin being announced?
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 1293707)
when is the merger with Virgin being announced?
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Originally Posted by Socal Approach
(Post 1293717)
Virgin America and jetBlue would like to keep it underwraps until 1st quarter 2013 when they (VX) name their 53rd aircraft "VirginBlue" as a hint to the flying public.
http://www.visitingphx.com/pnpamericanblue.jpg |
Now you know why AA ordered all those Airbii.
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Originally Posted by Moby Dick
(Post 1293752)
Now you know why AA ordered all those Airbii.
Sad, but the part do fit. Just my opinion...... FNG |
A few "poolie" related highlights from the monthly pilot conference call with COO:
- Expecting 6-7% ASM growth for 2013. - New service JFK-ABQ announced (At the same time, reductions for BUR and PIT were also announced on company website). - Hinted some FLL growth probable in the future. - Possible 3 additional E190 deliveries for 2013. These growth airplanes would also be available to support any issues with A321 deliveries that are scheduled to begin October 2013. This would mean 30 additional new hires for 2013 on top of current plans. - Expecting hiring window to open early 2013. - Bluedart program being revamped, no details provided. Overall, painted a somewhat rosy picture, but things could change at any time. For the poolies/new hires. Don't forget that JetBlue retirements for the next 20 years are nearly flat and at very low numbers. We are talking about low double digit retirements for at least 10 years and not much better than that. A new hire today most likely will need 20 years before they upgrade to the left seat. (my estimate). Just my opinion...... FNG |
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