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Old 06-11-2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
So who is to blame if Alaska voted in a TA that allows up to 100 seat RJ's to feed them?

Sad state of affairs.

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UP to 100?!?!? Up to ANYTHING! They could introduce narrow body Airbus, 787's, 747's, DC-8's, Convair 990's and there would be absolutely no protection....Why are the eyes not opening?! This is a big deal and goes way beyond the Pacific Northwest.

Delta has a nice payscale for 717's, just as an example, and that along with more mainline jobs everywhere is threatened by this lack of scope.
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Old 06-14-2013 | 09:20 PM
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Q. SkyWest just announced an order for 100 E175s. Forty are going to United and 60 are “uncommitted.” Is SkyWest going to be doing flying for the Air Group with 175s? Q400s are being shifted to Alaska to fly ANC‑FAI and other markets. How’s that loss of flying in the lower 48 going to get covered? Permanent schedule reduction? Alaska getting back into Horizon markets? Or is SkyWest getting more flying for us with this new order and 175s will be showing up in Alaska colors?

A. Thanks for your question. While we have an excellent relationship with SkyWest and are happy with the reliable, friendly service they provide our customers, they remain a relatively small part of our overall network. Only 5 CR7s are operated by SkyWest, which represents about 3% of the total Air Group fleet, and none of the recently ordered E175s will be flown within our network. Going forward, the Network Planning team is most focused on identifying new mainline opportunities as the vast majority of our coming growth is from additional 737 aircraft. While some regional growth may be necessary to support our mainline flying, most of our top opportunities as a company are on Alaska metal. At this time, we’re unsure for which other carrier SkyWest will be operating the new 175s since they have agreements with nearly every major US airline.
— Ben Brookman, Network Planning (June 14, 2013)

This was posted on our company website on the same day voting started..... Interesting very interesting.....
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Old 06-14-2013 | 10:14 PM
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Voted....AGAINST.
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Old 06-14-2013 | 10:35 PM
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Skywest now flies 8 RJs for Alaska. They are already sharing their BS as fact. They want you to vote yes.

Originally Posted by CassinAK
Q. SkyWest just announced an order for 100 E175s. Forty are going to United and 60 are “uncommitted.” Is SkyWest going to be doing flying for the Air Group with 175s? Q400s are being shifted to Alaska to fly ANC‑FAI and other markets. How’s that loss of flying in the lower 48 going to get covered? Permanent schedule reduction? Alaska getting back into Horizon markets? Or is SkyWest getting more flying for us with this new order and 175s will be showing up in Alaska colors?

A. Thanks for your question. While we have an excellent relationship with SkyWest and are happy with the reliable, friendly service they provide our customers, they remain a relatively small part of our overall network. Only 5 CR7s are operated by SkyWest, which represents about 3% of the total Air Group fleet, and none of the recently ordered E175s will be flown within our network. Going forward, the Network Planning team is most focused on identifying new mainline opportunities as the vast majority of our coming growth is from additional 737 aircraft. While some regional growth may be necessary to support our mainline flying, most of our top opportunities as a company are on Alaska metal. At this time, we’re unsure for which other carrier SkyWest will be operating the new 175s since they have agreements with nearly every major US airline.
— Ben Brookman, Network Planning (June 14, 2013)

This was posted on our company website on the same day voting started..... Interesting very interesting.....
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Old 06-14-2013 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CassinAK
Q. SkyWest just announced an order for 100 E175s. Forty are going to United and 60 are “uncommitted.” Is SkyWest going to be doing flying for the Air Group with 175s? Q400s are being shifted to Alaska to fly ANC‑FAI and other markets. How’s that loss of flying in the lower 48 going to get covered? Permanent schedule reduction? Alaska getting back into Horizon markets? Or is SkyWest getting more flying for us with this new order and 175s will be showing up in Alaska colors?

A. Thanks for your question. While we have an excellent relationship with SkyWest and are happy with the reliable, friendly service they provide our customers, they remain a relatively small part of our overall network. Only 5 CR7s are operated by SkyWest, which represents about 3% of the total Air Group fleet, and none of the recently ordered E175s will be flown within our network. Going forward, the Network Planning team is most focused on identifying new mainline opportunities as the vast majority of our coming growth is from additional 737 aircraft. While some regional growth may be necessary to support our mainline flying, most of our top opportunities as a company are on Alaska metal. At this time, we’re unsure for which other carrier SkyWest will be operating the new 175s since they have agreements with nearly every major US airline.
— Ben Brookman, Network Planning (June 14, 2013)

This was posted on our company website on the same day voting started..... Interesting very interesting.....
The truth that everyone keeps ignoring is that the economics of the next gen regional jets are competitive with mainline equipment. In fact, the next gen RJ's Delta is acquiring at new prices are quite a bit more efficient than the 15 year old 717's based on a late 1950's wing and airframe that SWA is subsidizing just to get rid of.

These things don't "feed mainline." They are transparent replacements, a true alter ego.
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Old 06-15-2013 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
What is worse is this=
1 year ago today the best Scope Protection was (Legacy) Continental... that is, until they merged with (Legacy) United [Which had the worst Scope Protection].

Now, a year later.. Delta and the "new" United have shifted the Scope line further to the right.
So instead of these F100 and 737-100/200 replacements coming to mainline, they are going to the commuters as "Large RJ's with reduced seating".
Alaska is just following suit.

What happened?!

Incorrect. They AREN'T following suit. If they were, then they'd get in line with Delta and United. Instead, they're lowering the bar for their own personal benefit.
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Old 06-15-2013 | 10:54 AM
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Incorrect. They AREN'T following suit. If they were, then they'd get in line with Delta and United. Instead, they're lowering the bar for their own personal benefit.
Lets get something straight, there are a lot of us that have been screaming from the mountain top about scope. There are unfortunately some that either don't understand or just don't care and are willing to overlook it for a few bucks. There is a reason management said scope protection was a non starter in this contract.
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Old 06-15-2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Aspilot
Lets get something straight, there are a lot of us that have been screaming from the mountain top about scope. There are unfortunately some that either don't understand or just don't care and are willing to overlook it for a few bucks. There is a reason management said scope protection was a non starter in this contract.
My apologies. I should've have specified that my dissatisfaction currently lies with the AS NC and AS MEC. Not the pilot group as a whole.
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Old 06-15-2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
My apologies. I should've have specified that my dissatisfaction currently lies with the AS NC and AS MEC. Not the pilot group as a whole.
When you constantly try to talk to pilots about scope and get the same line back "there is no scope we could negotiate that a Harvard MBA couldn't get around" what do you do? I feel that there are a lot of AS pilots who do care about scope but not enough. Now there are improvements in job security in this contract but not having a seat/weight limit is unacceptable.
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Old 06-15-2013 | 12:11 PM
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My apologies. I should've have specified that my dissatisfaction currently lies with the AS NC and AS MEC. Not the pilot group as a whole.
No worries. Just a little frustrated. Time to KCCO
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