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captwilko 10-10-2013 04:59 PM

JetBlue Sept. 26-27 interview group
 
Thought I'd start the thread for those of us who interviewed on Sept 26-27. I think at this point most Phase II emails have gone out so the next question is: who is getting calls for class and when?
Best of luck to all!

tankerpuke 10-11-2013 11:15 AM

How would someone find out they didn't make it? Email or snail mail? Know a guy who hasn't heard anything since interview...

Babyjetdvr 10-11-2013 11:29 AM

Just out of curiosity, those that interviewed. Did they submit an app when the Feb window opened?

captwilko 10-11-2013 11:33 AM

I think Phase I is by email, whether good or bad, and you get a letter FedEx if you don't make it out of Phase II. Weird that he hasn't heard about Phase I. Maybe they're not done with that after all.

tankerpuke 10-11-2013 06:39 PM

My bud emailed them asking for the yay or nay so he could move on. Looks like they left him of the email list :o He is on to phase two and couldn't be more excited!

rightside02 10-12-2013 05:49 AM

JetBlue Sept. 26-27 interview group
 
Buddy got called for a late October interview, good news to those who just interviewed, means people coming up behind you quicker. And his app was from the most recent opening , which was beginning of the year I believe.

Softpayman 10-12-2013 07:05 AM

As was said to me a million times, if you don't hear anything, you're in good shape.

Classes should be running through '14. Just hang on and wait for the call, took about 3 months from my interview till notification for a class.

Beef 10-17-2013 11:01 AM

Anyone heard any news since the email for Phase II? With the government back up and running, hopefully there wont be a delay for the background checks of PRIA records. Anyone have insight on when classes might be for those who interviewed on the 26th/27th? Thanks for any info!

Flyby1206 10-17-2013 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Beef (Post 1503313)
Anyone heard any news since the email for Phase II? With the government back up and running, hopefully there wont be a delay for the background checks of PRIA records. Anyone have insight on when classes might be for those who interviewed on the 26th/27th? Thanks for any info!

From a previous thread:


Those interviewing in Sept would probably have class dates of Nov 13th, Dec 4th or Jan/Feb, depending on how quickly backgrounds clear.

Tom a Hawk 10-17-2013 03:27 PM

Dunno about pria, but employment verification has been run.

captwilko 10-17-2013 04:53 PM

Have you heard anything from either the company doing the background check or JetBlue?


Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk (Post 1503497)
Dunno about pria, but employment verification has been run.


faipsrule 10-17-2013 06:11 PM

I received a copy of my previous training records from my old employer, so the letters were at least sent. Nothing from the FAA yet.

Tom a Hawk 10-19-2013 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by captwilko (Post 1503548)
Have you heard anything from either the company doing the background check or JetBlue?

Yes they were having trouble verifying my employment at two of my workplaces so I had to call and kick em into gear.

Beef 10-19-2013 07:25 AM

Has anyone else gotten the Phase 2 notification and has not been contacted or received copies of their records?

aldonite7667 10-19-2013 09:36 AM

Is JB now requiring a training contract?

benzoate 10-19-2013 10:09 AM

That is the rumor which has been very difficult to confirm.

402DRVR 10-19-2013 12:43 PM

no training contract for me or the last couple classes

cmesoar 10-19-2013 01:02 PM

Thanks 402 for the facts. Carry on everyone. I am sure those of you in phase 2 will be in training soon! Good luck!

rightside02 10-20-2013 10:58 AM

JetBlue Sept. 26-27 interview group
 
7 months since hired and still haven't received a phase II email.....don't worry /expect a email anytime soon for those who interviewed , your class will prob come before your email ever does .

faipsrule 10-27-2013 02:26 PM

Anybody else get a call today for the 13 Nov class? Job offers are still conditional since the backgrounds aren't done yet. Looks like the word at the interview was correct. They have immediate classes to fill.

Anyone know what the benefits are like? I didn't get to ask the question at the interview.

dogismycopilot 10-27-2013 03:04 PM

Lifeisbetterinblue.com

Also, your eligibility is the first day of the month after completing 30 days of employment. Nov. 13 class would be eligible for benefits on January 1, 2014.

TristarJS30 10-27-2013 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by faipsrule (Post 1508623)
Anybody else get a call today for the 13 Nov class? Job offers are still conditional since the backgrounds aren't done yet. Looks like the word at the interview was correct. They have immediate classes to fill.

Anyone know what the benefits are like? I didn't get to ask the question at the interview.


You got the call today? Wasn't expecting any since it was Sunday. Hopefully tomorrow!

captwilko 10-27-2013 03:27 PM

Congrats! What day/time did you interview?


Originally Posted by faipsrule (Post 1508623)
Anybody else get a call today for the 13 Nov class? Job offers are still conditional since the backgrounds aren't done yet. Looks like the word at the interview was correct. They have immediate classes to fill.

Anyone know what the benefits are like? I didn't get to ask the question at the interview.


ZapBrannigan 10-27-2013 04:22 PM

JetBlue Sept. 26-27 interview group
 
How many classes were in Oct? Just the one in Nov?

Sig178 10-27-2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by faipsrule (Post 1508623)
Anybody else get a call today for the 13 Nov class? Job offers are still conditional since the backgrounds aren't done yet. Looks like the word at the interview was correct. They have immediate classes to fill.

Anyone know what the benefits are like? I didn't get to ask the question at the interview.

Unfortunately terrible, if your spouse has benefits they are probably better than the garbage we get for the medical. Congrats on the class btw

faipsrule 10-27-2013 06:04 PM

I was in the 11:00 interview group on the 26th. I got the call at about 3:00 today. Blew me away that they would call on a Sunday, but Joanne said she had 23 spots in the class to fill. Best of luck to everyone waiting!

BlindBentBingo 10-27-2013 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 1508679)
How many classes were in Oct? Just the one in Nov?

Three: 2, 16, and 30 Oct. November is a big class, though.

pilotpayne 10-27-2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 1504484)
That is the rumor which has been very difficult to confirm.


And you would believe it.

Sig178 10-27-2013 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 1508748)
And you would believe it.

Have you sent in your card yet Joe?

WhyFlare 10-27-2013 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Sig178 (Post 1508761)
Have you sent in your card yet Joe?

Send your cards in new hires. ASAP. Benefits are opposite of good. 1300 annual deductible per family member. Ltd will be reduced in 2014 to 55 percent in most states.

Sig178 10-27-2013 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFlare (Post 1508802)
Send your cards in new hires. ASAP. Benefits are opposite of good. 1300 annual deductible per family member. Ltd will be reduced in 2014 to 55 percent in most states.

Max out of pocket for my family $12,248. Contrarian indeed.

BlindBentBingo 10-28-2013 01:52 AM

Getting Rid of the “Wrong Pilots”

“… it [attrition] continues to be a longer-term concern. But we’re looking at the data. And every time we do attrit a Pilot, we are looking at the - just what is the profile of a Pilot that attrits from JetBlue so that we can be smarter in who we’re hiring so that we don’t continue to have a long tail of attrition away from JetBlue.” (Source: COO Call-In, June 2013)

Recent corporate communications seem to be spreading the message that the current airline industry-wide hiring boom does not worry the ELT, nor provide any concern for our Training Department. Why then are Pilots holding recall capability receiving calls and pleads from their CPs? Why are New-Hires being sent home for a two-week delay prior to starting their first training event?

The COO has stated that he doesn’t know what a “destination airline” really is. Is he about to find out which major airlines are career destinations for Pilots and which one is not…? Does he even care…??

Is ELT Trying to Get Rid of the “Wrong Pilots”…?

“If you are uncomfortable with our business partners doing our long-haul flying, or if you really want to fly heavy aircraft, this may not be the right place for you….” (Source: Jet Blue management pilot at recent OSC Recurrent session)

“They (People Dept.) have briefed ELT and senior leaders that JetBlue and Flight Operations have no problem attracting qualified and interested candidates at this time. Rest assured, we are modeling the scenarios and feel comfortable from an attraction standpoint…. My peers in JBU have just briefed ELT and senior leaders on the department’s ability to handle a large through-put of training in case of attrition….Although we don’t want to lose any Pilot to a competitor, we have modeled potential attrition and built training safeguards to ensure we can continue to grow our airline into the future.” (Source: SVP Ops email, Sept 19, 2013)

Based on communications up and down the entire Jet Blue management chain, Pilot Contractual Needs Pilot Asks Pilot Begs must not really be a priority. The new semi-collaborated PEA, which was supposed to be released in July, then September, and now maybe November, is being withheld for what reason?

The promised PSIA pay can be easily calculated by an Intern with a spreadsheet in just a few minutes. While we fully expect the new pay rates to remain well below PSIA, in conjunction with further contract “Takeaways”, why is the August compensation review result still being withheld? The BOD has the 2014 budget for review so Pilot pay has already been determined. Why is the ELT delaying the release of what they have already decided upon…? Are they hoping to shift the blame for our continued sub-standard pay rates onto the “Wrong Pilots” in retaliation for our seeking Representation…?

Anyone raising concerns, daring to speak their minds to ELT, or even thinking about ORGANIZING to try and hold ELT to their 2009 PCRB/PSIA contract promises, is “not a good fit for Jet Blue” and was obviously hired in error. In other words, our below-average pay, work rules, vacation, health care, sick time, job protections, STD/LTD aren’t really issues worth addressing. “If you don’t like it here…LEAVE…We can just hire more to replace you….” Well, it looks like we are doing just that..!

Is ELT Turning Jet Blue Into a Stepping Stone Airline…?

While exact numbers are in dispute, Jet Blue pilots are leaving for other “Failed Model” Peer Set Airlines in ever-increasing numbers. Pilots throughout the seniority list, from newly arrived Trainees to Captains who have been here for over twelve years, are flooding out of Jet Blue for AA (a bankrupt airline), USAir (an airline still dealing with SLI issues), DAL, UAL, FedEx and that “unsustainable” (yet highly successful) low-cost airline, SWA. Every Pilot who is younger than 50 years old is re-evaluating the “value” of a career at JB and whether or not it stacks up to the COO’s “value” of “having a job here in 5, er 10, I mean, 20 years.”

Weren’t we supposed to be “contrarian” and “sustainable”, better than all those other, third-party represented airlines? Is this really how the ELT wants to staff the airline? Can a major airline succeed by staffing itself with temporary hires? Has the value of an experienced, Professional Pilot at JB fallen so far in the eyes of the ELT that we are expendable, like low-wage, part-time employees? Does this explain why our healthcare is almost as good as that of a Wal-Mart greeter…?

How could this happen at an airline like Jet Blue…? What happened to our airline founder’s promise, “We have no problem hiring pilots furloughed from other carriers….We will make this place so awesome they won’t EVER want to go back…?” (Source: David Neeleman at numerous new-hire orientations)

The Training Department is searching for ways to increase staffing “efficiency”, to include paying instructors by event. The simulator schedule is being evaluated for 24/7 operations, with “redeye” training events intended to support recurrent, upgrades, and new hires. Can our Training Department really support Part 117 hiring and upgrades and recurrent and attrition??? Have you spoken with a JBU instructor lately? Have you spoken to anyone just out of recurrent? The ELT and the front-line instructors are telling two vastly different stories…!

The ELT is just now seeing the exodus bow-wave of pilot discontent due to the failures of the Direct Relationship. Morale has reached levels so low that participation in the yearly Speak-Up survey is at single digits. When was the last time a town-hall was held specifically to drum up support for an on-line survey? Even the COO call-in participation has been reduced to “the usual suspects” as most Pilots have simply disengaged. We have reached the point where WE MUST ACT NOW…!

If you are “holding” your card, waiting for something to happen, you are holding up our ability to ACT as a collective force. Send in your card NOW and we can move forward. It is time for us to take control of our careers here at JB instead of playing the ELT’s waiting game to just “see what happens.”

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TristarJS30 10-28-2013 04:00 AM

Another jetblue thread hijacked...

So... did they say if there was only the one class in November? I'm guessing so due to the large number in the class. Anything for December and beyond?

Is there typically a method to how guys get awarded class? Morning interview guys first?

Flyby1206 10-28-2013 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 1508860)
Another jetblue thread hijacked...

So... did they say if there was only the one class in November? I'm guessing so due to the large number in the class. Anything for December and beyond?

Is there typically a method to how guys get awarded class? Morning interview guys first?

Nov 13 and Dec 4 (training shuts down for christmas) and classes continuing through next year. I'm guessing these classes in Nov/Dec will be large (15-20+) since there is only 1 class each month. Class dates seem to be given out based on when you interviewed and when your background check clears. So pick an early date/time slot if you can.

amcflyboy 10-28-2013 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 1508860)
Another jetblue thread hijacked...

So... did they say if there was only the one class in November? I'm guessing so due to the large number in the class. Anything for December and beyond?

Is there typically a method to how guys get awarded class? Morning interview guys first?

Hijacked...maybe. But consider yourself "educated."

BlindBentBingo 10-28-2013 08:06 AM

I posted because this is one side's suggestion on why the big classes right now that seem to be overtaxing the training capacity. But yes, probably some hijacking going on.

TristarJS30 10-28-2013 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by amcflyboy (Post 1508941)
Hijacked...maybe. But consider yourself "educated."

Thank you for the "education" in every jetblue thread

Beef 11-03-2013 12:56 PM

Anyone get Phase 2 email but not contacted yet for a class date from 27th interview? Thanks!

Tom a Hawk 11-03-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Beef (Post 1512586)
Anyone get Phase 2 email but not contacted yet for a class date from 27th interview? Thanks!

Do you mean the email that said you passed phase one?

I got that one and no others. My understanding is there are 40 or so people from day one and the November and December classes are about 20 each....

So I think a few from the 27th may get called for December but mostly tilt be 2014. Just my guess.

TristarJS30 11-03-2013 04:12 PM

Counting the emails addresses attached to one of the emails, the November class has 24 people in it.


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