Originally Posted by trenttdk (Post 1526664)

(emphasis mine)

You've stated this several times in this thread. Have you got a scintilla of evidence to back this up? TP asked you specifically for evidence, and you replied by attacking him personally. Are you slandering one of the best (IMHO) companies in the US, which employs thousands of Americans both directly and indirectly as well as directly supporting thousands more, based on nothing more than your own prejudice and ignorance?

If you have no evidence to support your position, then you are, there's no polite way to put this, a jackass.

Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1525800)

It is clear Boeing and Emirates are not to blame for you desperate effort to save what is left of your job, it is clear unions have not stopped the decline.

It is clear that all transactions have at least two parties, Boeng and Emirates aren't selling you, your "reps" are and there isn't much you can do about influence or demand for legitimate goods and services except rant on in your bizarre fashion. Good luck and thanks for the laugh.

Strange that you demand you own protection but scoff at anyone else trying to protect their interests because it isn't fair.

If you ever see a "left wing utopia" point it out, because nobody else in the history of the world has seen such a mythical creature.

Originally Posted by trenttdk (Post 1526717)

Oh FFS!!!!

Are you f*cking kidding me? Would any of these other parties go on the record and substantiate your rubbish? Let me guess, you were in a carpark, late at night with no witnesses while they 'told' you this earth-shattering information? You're probably lucky you're about as important as a pimple on an elephant's ass.

Originally Posted by trenttdk (Post 1526717)

Otherwise, the Boeing board would enjoy lounging in your house (after the civil suit) for printing complete, and unsubstantiated bullsh*t about their company.

Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 1525732)

Without passing comment as to whether Emirates is buying influence with the US government; I think the basic issue with the Middle Eastern threat is ultimately related to the service, or more accurately, the lack there of, of the American air carriers. A head to head comparison of US air carriers cabin service specifically and the total service experience in general with the Middle East airlines is a no contest. Most US carriers can't compete with the European carriers on a cabin for cabin basis, and they can't compete with Emirates.
Look I have a vested intertest in the health and well being of US owned and crewed airlines. I think most of the (American) flying public traveling to and from domestic or international destinations wishes to support the home team. But here's the problem, the home product SUCKS. Not universally, and not all the time, just most of it. :rolleyes:

You guys sitting up front either don't see it, have closed your eyes to it, or just try to wish it way/ believe it isn't so. I've ridden in business on most US airlines. Its embarrassing what's considered "service" on many flights. The international traveler is paying a small fortune to fly in the front of the jet, they deserve way better than they are getting. Emirates, for all the faults (and I agree, their treatment of labor is not up to western standards) gives the paying customer what they believe they should be getting. Its not all fault of the personnel. Airline management controls the product; they have failed to train, discipline, and provide the resources needed to compete with the competition. Protectionism may help, but its a band aid to the problem. Ultimately your airlines are going to have to match the competition, the consumer will have the final say, just as we all would expect it should in a free market system.

Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 1526735)

BTW; Why is Carl Spackler ignoring posts that asks for evidence that Boeing can/will provide access to US markets in exchange for aircraft orders from ME carriers?

Carl?




BTW; I don't work for a ME airline.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1526736)

This thread is fairly short. It's not my fault you have chosen not to read it from the start. Do so, then come back.

Carl

Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 1526739)

I have been through this thread and all I see from you is paranoia based conspiracy theories. Your conjecture isn't evidence.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1526740)

Then move on. Nobody's keeping you here.

Carl