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Short Bus Drive 03-18-2014 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1604170)
United:

1 hour of pay for every 2 hours of duty

1 hour of pay for every 3.5 hours away from base

5 hour min day pay per trip (average)

Reserve:

73 hour guarantee

Pilots all start on long call (13 hours). Pilots can be converted to short call 2 times. If converted 3-5 times and unused, one hour is added to guarantee each time, giving a max of 76 hours. Pilots can not be converted more than 5 times

You CAN be converted more than 5 times...
Starting on the 6th unused, you will be paid an additional hour (ie- 2 hours of add pay).Reference: 3-C-1-b-(1)-(b)
And I don't believe the 1:3.5 trip rig has kicked in yet.

cesnacaptn 03-18-2014 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by CATIII (Post 1604601)
did you see how next month all the PDX and SFO's are 2 day? But the time on the ground is less than 12 hours ... that's a bit tight, and might cause delays. This may also have to do with the daylight savings time schedule for Summer.

Yeah, I had hopped rigs were in better shape too... we may have to do some heavy lifting (again) to bring those rigs up a bit.. 2010 we did it for hourly pay.. so it's par for the course.

would love to hear from someone at Alaska on what they got in their most recent contract..

I think we need to look more seriously at international overrides and night overrides .. looks like the guys at JetBlue have all of us beat in that department.

A guy flying a trip to Japan or Australia should get a premium over the guy doing the west coast milk runs..

There weren't any changes to Alaska's rigs in the last contract. They are as follows:

5 hours per duty period
1 hour of credit per 2 hours of duty (never seen this)
1 hour of credit per 3.5 hours time away from base
International pay is $5/hour for captains, $4/hour of FOs
No night pay

CATIII 03-18-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by cesnacaptn (Post 1605002)
There weren't any changes to Alaska's rigs in the last contract. They are as follows:

5 hours per duty period
1 hour of credit per 2 hours of duty (never seen this)
1 hour of credit per 3.5 hours time away from base
International pay is $5/hour for captains, $4/hour of FOs
No night pay

wow, carbon copy of what we and the rest have... I'm amazed that nobody lifted the rigs in their rounds... and a bit disappointed.

We want to raise our rigs here, but we'd have had a much stronger leg to stand on if others had done something since 2010 when we did our last contract.

Productivity is as much a give back as wages.. people don't' get that tho. They see $200/hr and get all wet thinking about it.. sigh.

CATIII 03-18-2014 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 1605017)
I think if we can't improve our rigs, we need to add a 5 hour minimum day and add the words "or greater" to the language to read something like "rig, 5 hour min day or whatever is greater" to drive efficiencies. It would also be great to extend that 5 hr min day to vacation and training too.

Vacation, Training and Reserve are by far the 3 biggest broken QOL items here.. and were we must dig our heals in. Pay will be indexed up to DAL/UAL rates by simple arbitration worse case.. but those areas where we suffer most are in the time off depts.. 12 days off reserve lines have to die..


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