Majors and pilots needed for 2014
09-27-2013, 09:42 AM
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Majors and pilots needed for 2014
I'd like to get an idea of what the total # of pilots needed by Majors for 2014. Here's what I have so far:
Delta: 500-600
Southwest: 200
Spirit: 300?
Jetblue: 200?
American/UsAir: ????
United: 600
Frontier? Alaska? Hawian? Atlas?
Who am I forgetting? Any idea on the #s for USAir/American?
Roughly 2000-2500 is my best guess...if so, that equates to approxomately 10% of the regional pilots...20%ish of the CAs...25%+ of hireable CAs who want to leave. These #s are guestimates at best...feel free to correct/disagree
Delta: 500-600
Southwest: 200
Spirit: 300?
Jetblue: 200?
American/UsAir: ????
United: 600
Frontier? Alaska? Hawian? Atlas?
Who am I forgetting? Any idea on the #s for USAir/American?
Roughly 2000-2500 is my best guess...if so, that equates to approxomately 10% of the regional pilots...20%ish of the CAs...25%+ of hireable CAs who want to leave. These #s are guestimates at best...feel free to correct/disagree
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09-27-2013, 09:59 AM
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For Delta:
The official number is 300 (that's what has been funded). That being said... they will most likely receive funding for a total of 600 pilots for 2014. That announcement should be forth coming soon.
Now, I also had a conversation with someone from Network who said they would like to hire 1000 pilots in 2014. We shall see who wins out. I will put my money on 600 plus for 2014. It's real hard to pin Delta down on what, how much or where flying will be taking place.
The official number is 300 (that's what has been funded). That being said... they will most likely receive funding for a total of 600 pilots for 2014. That announcement should be forth coming soon.
Now, I also had a conversation with someone from Network who said they would like to hire 1000 pilots in 2014. We shall see who wins out. I will put my money on 600 plus for 2014. It's real hard to pin Delta down on what, how much or where flying will be taking place.
09-27-2013, 10:26 AM
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Majors and pilots needed for 2014
My friend and I did this same math after OBAP after talking with the recruiters informally and came up with similar numbers except we banked on 900 for American and US Airways combined. We also counted on no pilots (obviously not the case) leaving a less desirable major or legacy for a more desirable one. Our total was about 2,700 total, which we assumed meant about 4,000 interviews which might seem to drain the pool of 3,000 PIC guys rapidly if all goes as well as we all hope. I'm sure my numbers are probably a tad too optimistic...
09-27-2013, 10:36 AM
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Seems as if 2500-3000 may be closer to what's planned...if 4500 are interviewed and assuming the majority interviewed are CAs, take out 20% of roughly 14000 regional CA due to lifer or unhireable (DUI, etc), then that should mean about 11000 eligible regional CAs...25% of eligible regional CAs should move on in 2014. Math is fun...and fuzzy
09-27-2013, 10:40 AM
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"I'm sure my numbers are probably a tad too optimistic..."
Not at all.
American is recalling 50 per month and has been since January. My understanding is that will continue infinitely even after the furlough and flow list is exhausted in summer 2014.
UsAirways East needs 1000+ during 2014 - 2016 (no breakdown given per year yet) just for retirements alone not including the new rest rules (though I've yet to hear even a preliminary number there so speculate as you will).
UsAirways West has 66 joining the ranks to exhaust their furlough list - haven't heard anything beyond that.
Not at all.
American is recalling 50 per month and has been since January. My understanding is that will continue infinitely even after the furlough and flow list is exhausted in summer 2014.
UsAirways East needs 1000+ during 2014 - 2016 (no breakdown given per year yet) just for retirements alone not including the new rest rules (though I've yet to hear even a preliminary number there so speculate as you will).
UsAirways West has 66 joining the ranks to exhaust their furlough list - haven't heard anything beyond that.
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