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JoeyMeatballs 04-27-2014 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1631404)
Not enough hipsters in PHL, I guess.

D-bag Hipsters don't use air travel, they just ride their stupid bicycles everywhere............

tsquare 04-27-2014 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 1631180)
Well, crush us into bankruptcy. Which would allow us to shed debt, return to Dallas and crush you back into bancruptcy. That in turn, would...well, you get my drift. Without the government rules, the only thing you would be crushing is beer cans. At least acknowledge the fact that the government laws are written to keep corporations alive when free market forces would have ended them.

Don't you work for SWA? They are not a LCC.

Piedmonster 04-27-2014 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1630354)
Great... The government picking the winners and losers instead of an open and transparent auction.

Fox News?
Is that you trolling an internet forum?:cool:

putzin 04-27-2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Piedmonster (Post 1631504)
Fox News?
Is that you trolling an internet forum?:cool:

You sound like that whiney chick, Rachel Maddow. :D

Bugaboo 04-27-2014 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1631369)
Not giving va these gates would have been better for them. They are going to go head to head with aa, swa and others for business travelers. Those are a different group than the usual bay area hipster va caters to.

If va can't make this work is over for them.

Do you know how many time a comment like that has been made in the last 6-7 years.:cool:
DAL is gonna be good for VA. The people of Dallas are really no different than anyone else. They will test the waters and will enjoy the feel.

shoelu 04-28-2014 07:32 AM

City’s consultants say Southwest best choice
 
Aviation consultants hired by the city of Dallas have concluded that Southwest Airlines would be the city’s best choice to get two available gates at Dallas Love Field.

L.E.K. Consultants said the “city’s main objective” should be to maximize the number of passengers originating or ending their trips at Love Field and Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, “as that would represent maximum utility for stakeholders.”

“Based on fleet plans and potential cannibalization at D/FW, Southwest would likely drive the most passenger traffic across both DAL [Love Field] & D/FW,” the consultants said in a report to the city.

The Dallas City Council’s Transportation and Trinity River Project Committee is scheduled to discuss the Love Field gates Monday afternoon.

American Airlines Inc. is required to divest the gates as part of a lawsuit settlement with the U.S. Department of Justice, which had sued American and US Airways Inc. in 2013 to block their planned merger.

The Justice Department has told American that it wants Virgin America to get the gates, which are among 20 gates in the new Love Field terminal nearing completion. Twelve of the gates are already in use.

The work is scheduled to be done before Oct. 13, the date that federal restrictions on Love Field flights expire. After that date, carriers can fly to any U.S. airport out of the Dallas airport, ending more than 34 years of limited service .

Southwest, which controls 16 of the new gates, is lobbying for the two American gates as well. Southwest has already named 15 cities that would get nonstop service when the federal limits expire, and promised service to 17 additional cities if it got the extra gates.

Delta Air Lines Inc. also is pushing to be able to fly out of Love Field, even though the Justice Department said March 10 that the Atlanta-based carrier was “not an appropriate divestiture candidate” for the Dallas gates.

Virgin America chairman Don Carty and chief executive David Cush on Friday said they had approval from the Justice Department and American to get the gates, and said they expected City Manager A.C. Gonzalez to approve the transfer of the gates. Virgin America started offering introductory $79 nonstop fares out of Love Field on Friday.

Carty called the lease transfer “a relatively routine matter. I don’t know that this city has ever interfered with the transfer of a lease between two private parties.”

“I think it’s pretty clear that these transfers get approved unless there’s an overwhelming reason not to approve them,” Carty said. “And we’ve seen transfers of Love Field gates to parties that are far less credible than a Virgin America.”

In briefing material to the council committee, the city staff indicated that Justice has made its wishes known.

“On April 16, 2014, the City received notice from the Department of Justice that American and Virgin America had reached an agreement and that agreement satisfies the Department of Justice,” the briefing paper stated.

L.E.K. said that the decision on the gates should be based on what’s best for the “primary stakeholders” — Dallas residents and the local business community. It said its analysis did not include American and the Justice Department.

“We have excluded ‘other stakeholder’ considerations from our analysis in order to remain objective; the DOJ’s needs do not necessarily overlap with the needs of the primary stakeholders,” the L.E.K. report said.

The consultants said Southwest likely would add the most destinations and “drive the most passenger traffic” at the two airports. While Virgin America plans 18 daily departures at Love Field, it will take its six departures away from D/FW Airport. The report also raised the question of whether Delta’s 22 flights at Love Field would cannibalize its D/FW operations.

It assumed that Delta would operate only 20 flights a day from the two gates, although Delta has scheduled 22 flights.

City?s consultants say Southwest is best choice for Dallas Love Field gates | Dallas Morning News

NERD 05-03-2014 12:18 PM

As a DFW commuter the more I think about it, let them have the gates at luv. If that means I don't have to walk by their ticket counters on my way to KCM and get blasted by that douchy music, it's worth it.

Pogey Bait 05-12-2014 04:18 PM

City of Dallas gives OK for Virgin America to get two Love Field gates | Dallas Morning News

Dun deal.

gloopy 05-12-2014 05:38 PM

SWA better brang it.


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