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ShyGuy 08-30-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1715893)
The divert occurred because the PAX assaulted or interfered with an FA to the point where air marshals broke cover. That normally doesn't happen lightly...

Isn't that a breach of their specific duty? To defend the flight deck. In reality because nothing ever happens it seems FAMs would jump at the first opportunity to actually do something in an otherwise most boring job. Real, smart bad guys could set up a decoy distraction involving FA harassment just to see FAMs break cover. If these FAMs did over a seat recline issue, something is wrong with their operation.

gloopy 08-30-2014 09:42 AM

The fact that this "story" was a national front page story clearly shows an activist sales media trying to make the news. They are desperately trying to foment populist air rage because they think it sells. Typical nut job J school hacks.

Bucking Bar 08-30-2014 12:22 PM

The story is a knee jerk reaction ... .

Literally, there is a reason they test your reflexes by lightly striking the Patellar Ligament. It is a very sensitive spot and if you do not react, something's wrong with you.

Can you imagine getting hit by a reflex hammer with 100 lbs of force? The knee and it's supporting ligaments are not designed for that. It is potentially injurious and IMHO, the airlines should lock the seats in the upright position.

PilotHiring 08-31-2014 10:53 AM

More unbundling...
 
The next step is to lock some seats upright and charge more to sit in the row behind the lockers!

hindsight2020 08-31-2014 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by PilotHiring (Post 1716533)
The next step is to lock some seats upright and charge more to sit in the row behind the lockers!

I'm sure Spirit's on the case....:D

Plane Ramrod 08-31-2014 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by hindsight2020 (Post 1716591)
I'm sure Spirit's on the case....:D

Spirit seats don't recline genius.

TQ Nola 08-31-2014 07:02 PM

The difference between fully upright and the 10 or 20 degrees of max recline is huge for my back. As a commuter, I usually take a seat in the last row to entirely avoid this issue.

That said, I'll have to tear someone a new one if they impede my recline. You need more space for your clown legs, pay a little more for whatever your airline calls their 'more legroom' rows.

TQ Nola 08-31-2014 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by PilotHiring (Post 1716533)
The next step is to lock some seats upright and charge more to sit in the row behind the lockers!

Eh, the next step is a bidding war via Go-Go or whatever between you and the guy in front of you for the ability to recline or lock-out a recline.

I also am waiting for Spirit to block off the under-seat area, and have it un-block itself only if you pay an additional fee to access it. I'm surprised they haven't done that yet.

--cue diabolical laughter--

buzzpat 08-31-2014 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1715904)
Isn't that a breach of their specific duty? To defend the flight deck. In reality because nothing ever happens it seems FAMs would jump at the first opportunity to actually do something in an otherwise most boring job. Real, smart bad guys could set up a decoy distraction involving FA harassment just to see FAMs break cover. If these FAMs did over a seat recline issue, something is wrong with their operation.

OK, director of homeland security, why don't you get on that.:rolleyes:

buzzpat 08-31-2014 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1715980)
The fact that this "story" was a national front page story clearly shows an activist sales media trying to make the news. They are desperately trying to foment populist air rage because they think it sells. Typical nut job J school hacks.

Yup. And the incessant, inane USA Today articles bashing airlines and the "gouging" of the flying public.


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