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09-05-2014 | 10:55 AM
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[QUOTE=full of luv
1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
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Actually, what you're saying is incorrect. Perhaps your carrier has additional requirements for KCM written into your FOM above and beyond TSA requirements? Read the last FAQ question on here and it should provide an answer to this: Crewmembers
1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
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Actually, what you're saying is incorrect. Perhaps your carrier has additional requirements for KCM written into your FOM above and beyond TSA requirements? Read the last FAQ question on here and it should provide an answer to this: Crewmembers
09-05-2014 | 11:13 AM
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[QUOTE]
Actually, what you're saying is incorrect. Perhaps your carrier has additional requirements for KCM written into your FOM above and beyond TSA requirements? Read the last FAQ question on here and it should provide an answer to this: Crewmembers
Well it looks like it is legal. Yes our company forbids using uniform to bypass or lighten security when not working so his behavior would violate our fom but apparently not the Tsa.
Originally Posted by full of luv
1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
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1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
[/QUOTE
Actually, what you're saying is incorrect. Perhaps your carrier has additional requirements for KCM written into your FOM above and beyond TSA requirements? Read the last FAQ question on here and it should provide an answer to this: Crewmembers
09-05-2014 | 05:03 PM
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207,
Great details on your process. Two issues.
1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
2. If your company has JS privileges and is with ALPA, how come no access to ID90.com which would have made your whole process much less painful for both you and HAL?
Great details on your process. Two issues.
1. The procedure you just quoted using KCM to bypass security when traveling for pleasure (JS or not) is a violation of the KCM rules and your type will eventually ruin it for everyone when you get caught.
2. If your company has JS privileges and is with ALPA, how come no access to ID90.com which would have made your whole process much less painful for both you and HAL?
As for the ID90, my airline does not use ID90, we use myidtravel.com, two totally different websites. Also if you were to buy a ZED ticket on myidtravel.com a round trip would run you in the costs of $250+. Listing for the JS is much cheaper and might as well use the benefit of being a 121 pilot to the utmost part as you can.
Also when you call the 1888 # for HAL , the just create a PNR, no etckt is associated, an customer service agent has to add details to your PNR at the airport to complete and create an Etckt.
09-05-2014 | 05:37 PM
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I see all this call that and go to this counter and tell the agent this and I heard from a guy to say this.
All I can say is... over the past 10+ years. Thanks Polar guys and thanks Atlas guys... You are the best!
All I can say is... over the past 10+ years. Thanks Polar guys and thanks Atlas guys... You are the best!
09-05-2014 | 05:53 PM
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No sorry or anything for calling a guy out by saying "your type" is gonna ruin it when he did absolutely nothing wrong? Nice!
09-05-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Sorry I'll keep that in mind about the KCM.
As for the ID90, my airline does not use ID90, we use myidtravel.com, two totally different websites. Also if you were to buy a ZED ticket on myidtravel.com a round trip would run you in the costs of $250+. Listing for the JS is much cheaper and might as well use the benefit of being a 121 pilot to the utmost part as you can.
Also when you call the 1888 # for HAL , the just create a PNR, no etckt is associated, an customer service agent has to add details to your PNR at the airport to complete and create an Etckt.
As for the ID90, my airline does not use ID90, we use myidtravel.com, two totally different websites. Also if you were to buy a ZED ticket on myidtravel.com a round trip would run you in the costs of $250+. Listing for the JS is much cheaper and might as well use the benefit of being a 121 pilot to the utmost part as you can.
Also when you call the 1888 # for HAL , the just create a PNR, no etckt is associated, an customer service agent has to add details to your PNR at the airport to complete and create an Etckt.
Im glad you were able to make it, often the agents are too busy to be trying to figure out how to create the listing.
Aloha, luv
09-05-2014 | 08:14 PM
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Apparently his actions were legal.
In this case I agree with my company that wearing the uniform just to circumvent security and then changing in the bathroom before the flight seems a little sketchy. Pax notice.
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