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Fred Flintstone 09-14-2014 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by griff312 (Post 1727062)
Yes, F&H sent over a guy named Jerry Glass to rape and pound the envoy pilots into submission. We've been giving them a good fight, but to what loss is still to remain unseen. He's the union buster whipsaw master of the current age. As about as cruel as they come. He's the guy that made the Comair II threat directly to our negotiator's faces. If your airline has retained someone from F&H, then my guess is that you're headed toward some serious bare knuckle fights. Be ready!!! I'd start boning up by watching "Confessions from a former union buster" on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tAgjII4CRi4

Glass was also involved in the breakup of Air Wisconsin in 1993. He later had a heart attack. Only person I have ever wished to die rather than recover from an illness. May they all rot in hadies.

Cujo665 09-14-2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by griff312 (Post 1727062)
Yes, F&H sent over a guy named Jerry Glass to rape and pound the envoy pilots into submission. We've been giving them a good fight, but to what loss is still to remain unseen. He's the union buster whipsaw master of the current age. As about as cruel as they come. He's the guy that made the Comair II threat directly to our negotiator's faces. If your airline has retained someone from F&H, then my guess is that you're headed toward some serious bare knuckle fights. Be ready!!! I'd start boning up by watching "Confessions from a former union buster" on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tAgjII4CRi4

I want to picket his house. Forget picketing the airport. I want his neighbors to know what kind of jacksagon they live next to. To these guys it's just business, to us it's personal. It needs to become personal to them.

Cujo665 09-14-2014 03:19 PM

Nope, no collusion going on here.... Every company using the same union busting company.

SmitteyB 09-14-2014 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1727085)
I want to picket his house. Forget picketing the airport. I want his neighbors to know what kind of jacksagon they live next to. To these guys it's just business, to us it's personal. It needs to become personal to them.

Jerry Glass was the lead negotiator during the Endeavor bankruptcy too.

Ray Red 09-14-2014 04:22 PM

It is safe to assume that EVERY airline has either hired people from F&H or at the very least, hired their firm.

griff312 09-14-2014 05:21 PM

Jerry Glass from F&H, is known to have either himself, or hired private investigators to dig deep inside of MEC, LEC members and negotiating team member's personal and private info in orders to have blackmail material on them. He has been accused (not proven) of "setting up" members, in a manner that falsely incriminates them, in order to turn their constituents against him. One member who has posted on this thread already, knows this first hand. Their tactics are borderline illegal, and completely unethical. JB pilots had better lock arms, and unite 100%, get a game plan and get behind and support your MEC, if JB has retained the services of F&H. Retaining them can only mean one thing, and it is not good. Hell does not have a pit hot enough nor deep enough for F&H.

Sniper 09-14-2014 08:27 PM

So, JetBlue, Delta, RAH and Envoy (Eagle) all have a former F&H in-house - anyone else?

Just about everyone else has F&H on retainer, especially for bankruptcies, terminations, and, of course, negotiations.

Is there another firm that approaches F&H in terms of always being the adversary to pilots?

If airline management universally uses F&H, why don't pilots universally have the same level of resource? ALPA legal is probably the closest thing to it, but I have a feeling 'Airline Management Central forums' doesn't have a thread on how much they despise a particular attorney representing pilot labor.

Qotsaautopilot 09-15-2014 07:36 AM

Xjt has been dealing with these guys for for years with one concessionary TA, no contract, and no strike. What makes these guys so hard to deal with and why have we as pilots not figured out the weak spot yet?

myoface 09-15-2014 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 1727441)
Xjt has been dealing with these guys for for years with one concessionary TA, no contract, and no strike. What makes these guys so hard to deal with and why have we as pilots not figured out the weak spot yet?

The weak spot is unity. No regional carrier has that anymore. For that matter, with the mergers that have taken place, no major has it either.

dudeskibro 09-15-2014 08:32 AM

Esposito was the "go to" guy Spirit used during our 2010 strike. He's wasn't in house, but Spirit has a long history working with the friendly lawyers of Ford & Harrison.


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