Metropolitan Subway Terror Plot
 

Iraqi PM uncovered terror plot for metro NY, Chicago and other large cities. If any of you are hanging out in the crash pads and considering riding the tubes be on alert and possibly take the bus or cabs. 20 plus AMERICAN CITIZEN ISIS fighters have just returned recently from the Middle East to the homeland. Be safe and on alert!!!!

With these guys.....Grab a leg and make a wish. Mob action will end up terrifying these block heads. Think the life expectancy of a Chinese sentry in Central Park.

Source?

Bonus points if the source isn't a reactionary right-wing blog.

Islamic terror plot aimed at N.Y.C., Paris subways: Iraqi PM - MarketWatch

I don't know how right wing marketwatch is but that's where I got it from.

He said the Iraqi PM, they must be buddies. :)

I'll be riding the subway with my ear phones on as always. F ISIL! These nut bags will not scare me into changing my normal life.

I asked because, when the OP first posted, I did not see anything on any of the "big" news outlets.

CNN still shows nothing, while BBC says the Iraqi PM claimed their intelligence uncovered such a plot while the US says they have no knowledge of any plot on subways.

Still curious about the 20 American ISIS fighters that recently returned...

They probably heard the Majors were hiring...:rolleyes:

The average American has a greater chance of being killed by the police than a terrorist. Also, heart disease, cancer and cars. We have a knack for being very bad at assessing risk -- aided and abetted by the scaremongering media.

Yah if we know 20 IS fighters came to the US why don't we go get them?

True. But the real risk is what happens to the economy and our industry if they are successful pulling something off.

I'm an Airline Pilot who rides the subway to work frequently, not a Gang-Banger in East Los Angeles. I have a much higher chance of being killed by terrorism rather than a cop.

Your argument would fit in at averageamerican-in-Des-Moines-forums.com.

They provide a greater abundance of information 'on the loose' than if they were incarcerated at Gitmo being water-boarded. (Although I like the idea of their future water-boarding too, just sayin'.) :D

Obama administration confirms American ISIS fighters have returned and 'the FBI is looking at them' after terror army calls for attacks on the US | Daily Mail Online

Enjoy!

Ok. We can eliminate death-by-cop in your circumstance. That still leaves heart disease, cancer and cars. And food poisoning. And maybe bee stings, if you're allergic. :D

This is a real threat. Economic harm.

Affects far more people, exactly. 9/11 did more than kill 3000 civilians.

Unless you've got a cure for cancer, this matter is just as pressing. Even if this particular report is just hot air from the Iraqi PM, there are events in motion and subsequently thwarted constantly. Some of the airlines have very good security folks with knowledge of such things if you ever get a chance to talk to them...it will never be in print.

I understand your point and agree.

My point is that the basis for this economic harm will originate in the public's irrational fear of death by terrorism. I can distinctly remember reporters shoving their mic's in peoples' faces at the airports a month after 9-11 and asking passengers if they "thought it was safe to fly," (and thereby insinuating -- contrary to the mountain of statistical data proving otherwise -- that it wasn't.)

Driving in your car is an order of magnitude more risky...

There's a very easy way to avoid "death by cop..." DON'T BREAK THE LAW!!!

***Insert Chris Rock video "How not to get beat up by the police"***

(Had to edit my post to avoid an APC TOS violation) :)

Iraqi PM huh? That's a great credible source. The same guys who let their country get run over by disorganized 'rebels.' The same guys we equipped, trained, fought with, gave money, weapons, and all the know-how to defend their country, yet..... grabbed their tails, put down their weapons and ran.

Alas:

ISIS U.S. subway plot? No indications, officials say - CNN.com

No indications of U.S. subway terror plot, officials say

Intelligence and law enforcement agencies have no indications of an ISIS terror plot against U.S. transit systems, two U.S. law enforcement officials told CNN earlier.

Later on Thursday, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Iran and Iraq Brett McGurk told CNN's Brianna Keilar that there "is no specific credible threat whatsoever that they have uncovered to the United States." He spoke to Keilar having just come from a meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and Vice President Joe Biden.

The land of the free and the home of the brave... sure it is.

Homeland Security needs to assign duties to the populace in the event someone in a bin Laden suit jumps out from behind a bush and says "BOO!"

1/3 of the population will be tasked with running in circles waving their arms in the air and screaming.

1/3 will be tasked with ensuring every single individual is 100% safe 100% of the time from anything at all bad that could possibly happen regardless of the effect on liberty and the economy. This includes hangnails.

The remaining 1/3 will be tasked with cowering under their beds.

But none if it's a left-wing source like cnn, msnbc, espn or TYT? Hmmmm

I don't consider CNN "left wing", but to your point, yeah I expect to see "news" on robust, connected and/or mature sources like major network news (NBC/ABC/CBS News), CNN, BBC, Politico, Al Jazerra America, even (gasp) Fox or MSNBC.

Any of the above is more credible for "news" than (for example) The Washington Free Beacon or some other UNSOURCED blog with a hard right-wing slant.

And I say that as a registered Republican that happens to have a rather sensitive BS filter.

To clarify, I meant BSNBC :-).
On subject though, with the lax immigration oversight that this country has, why do idiotic Americans get bent out of shape when something like this happens?!
Americans want the benefits of everything, but are upset when they find out that EVERYTHING has a catch.

I would argue that FOX or MSNBC are on par with right or left wing blogs. They have proven over and over again that they have little to no "robust" news reporting ability but heck they do a good job of rallying there perspective sides.

As everyone is debating sources lets all agree that CNN sides left, FOX sides right and all the others have their left/right slants as well. What is confirmed is the return of citizens that have fought alongside ISIS. Do we think they came home because they woke up and said this is wrong? I'm gonna say no. The same thing happened prior to 9/11. All the left leaning sources were crying no credible intel concerning terrorists using airliners as weapons. Look what happened. One could say that since Clinton was Prez and anti war that putting the squash on worries and keeping heads in the sand was all that was needed to protect the political party. Look at what Judicial Watch finally uncovered after many years of FOIA requests. It will surprise the heck out of anyone to see that the Clinton Admin had credible intel to act on. Recently Clinton opened his own mouth saying he should have taken OBL out when he had him on a plate basically. Unfortunately the left prefers the "it won't happen on our watch bcuz we are trying the nice approach to our enemies politics" which history shows only emboldens the enemy. I see a parallel approach to this by our current Administration. Time will tell.

Actually, that is not correct. Fox News (and believe me, after years of FBO TVs glued to FNC I cannot f'ing stand that channel) gets breaking news out MUCH faster, and often times, their sources for breaking news are more accurate/reliable than other news providers.

Also, I'd argue NBC News (which MSNBC has direct access to) is one of the very best in the world, arguably behind BBC but ahead most anybody else. MSNBC's failings are one of ideological slant to how stories are presented, and not NECESSARILY the stories themselves.

CNN...well, I think they are the most middle-of-the-road of the Big 3 cable news networks politically (talent slants left, I think the 'news' is mostly objective) but their sources and filler-level reporting are God-awful (witness Malaysian 370).

Politico is generally my domestic go-to.

Or this at work. The copycats are here.

Suspect in Oklahoma beheading tried converting co-workers to Islam | New York Post

Wut??????:rolleyes:

Clearly fox is the Republican Party outlet and msnbc is the Democratic Party outlet.
But CNN?? They're not left-wing or right-wing. They are a "news product". It's a large corporation trying to make money by selling whatever they think the consumer wants. They are an institutional tabloid. I find them 100x more revolting than any overt partisan hackery. Watching them only encourages them. They are a degradation of our society.

Do you really think that is a greater statistical threat than the items I listed? You should be more afraid of bathtubs and furniture.

How Scared of Terrorism Should You Be? - Reason.com

Americans Are as Likely to Be Killed by Their Own Furniture as by Terrorism - The Atlantic

I'm with Goggles on this...but possibly for a reason he won't agree with. I live in a concealed carry state. This subhuman who beheaded that woman would have been dropped after the first scream, and it likely wouldn't have been from an off duty cop as happened in OK. If I didn't have my weapon with me, any other object would have sufficed. Police can't be everywhere all the time so we have to look out for each other and fix problems on the spot when the police are not around. More and more people are understanding this.

As these public beheadings continue (and they will), our society will morph into one of being more comfortable with citizen "police action." We will probably even see "street justice" administered on occasion which is concerning, but inevitable. Our society will toughen up over this...and it should.

Carl

I agree a gazillion percent.

As the popularity of these wacko, wanna-be copycat's, who think they're following some misperceived radical, sand-flea religion bring a greater amount of threat to normalized society, there'll be a significantly increased need for bystander's, with personal protection devices (concealed weapons), to step in when the police aren't able to respond.

GJ

P.S. My wife also has her concealed carry permit for her Glock .40 and knows how to use it. :)

Tell her I'm proud of her GJ. My wife's not quite there yet.

Carl

Ideally yes, realistically no. Have you taken a look at America's youth today? They are more concerned with fb and twitter, instagram etc than what is going on five feet from them. Secondly, the male in this country has been systematically castrated by the government and media. Men are feminized. The will for people to fight is basically nil.
While I agree with what you're saying, the reality of it doesn't mix....

Conceal carry permit? Not in NJ.

Yes I have. While it's true that some youth are as you describe, I flew as a pax with half a plane full of Marines on their way to Parris Island. They were all fit, tough, and looked like they could kill me with a look. I asked my seat mate how old he was, and he was 19. When we go boots on the ground again in Iraq and Syria, those boots will be filled with these youth.

My prediction is that the feminization of men has bottomed out. It's back to being Neanderthals like me.


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Carl

There are other means of persuasion and crime defense.


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Carl

A month after 9/11, I was hunting Osama and killing Al Queda by the hundreds on every sortie! The most gratifying time of my entire career and some of the most fun I've ever had flying.