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tom11011 10-12-2014 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1744860)
I don't think the test is "Pass-Fail".

It is a PERSONALITY test.

You cannot Fail to have a personality, but I've seen a few who certainly tried!

The 'test' is to tell the tester what -type- of personality you have. Then they decide if that's the type they want to hire.

One company may want to hire only Type A, another might want Type B, some may want Type C, etc.

Yes, correct. Although the test can detect deception, that's why they ask you the same or similar question several times. If the test detects deception in the answer, it is a sign of defensiveness.

captjns 10-12-2014 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1745052)
Can't tell someones personality from a hor$hit psych test or some Delta psychologist. You tell someones personality by spending a day or two with a person and having a few cold ones.

These tests are proven beyond a shadow of a doubt:rolleyes:.

You all remember the Depends Diaper Astronaut who drove cross country to catch her cheating husband in the act? Well the selection process really worked for her selection process. Oh what about the Jet Blue Captain who ent on a tear over the skies of Texas? Yep... the shrinks dink test worked there too.

Yep. These tests are fool proof, interpreted by a bunch of nut cases that call themselves experts. Gives new meaning the insane running the asylum.

badflaps 10-12-2014 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1745140)
These tests are proven beyond a shadow of a doubt:rolleyes:.

You all remember the Depends Diaper Astronaut who drove cross country to catch her cheating husband in the act? Well the selection process really worked for her selection process. Oh what about the Jet Blue Captain who ent on a tear over the skies of Texas? Yep... the shrinks dink test worked there too.

Yep. These tests are fool proof, interpreted by a bunch of nut cases that call themselves experts. Gives new meaning the insane running the asylum.

I think you'll find the JBlu guy snuck through in the Morris merge. As for the Navy Capt., well, there are quotas...........:rolleyes:

USMCFLYR 10-12-2014 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1745140)
These tests are proven beyond a shadow of a doubt:rolleyes:.

You all remember the Depends Diaper Astronaut who drove cross country to catch her cheating husband in the act? Well the selection process really worked for her selection process. Oh what about the Jet Blue Captain who ent on a tear over the skies of Texas? Yep... the shrinks dink test worked there too.

Yep. These tests are fool proof, interpreted by a bunch of nut cases that call themselves experts. Gives new meaning the insane running the asylum.

At least get give the poor guy the proper credit - he wasn't her husband and he was trying to get rid of the 'fatal attraction'.

Lisa Nowak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

breakfall35 10-12-2014 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 1743261)
Is the hogan the first day test at Delta? Then MMPI on day two of you get that far?

There is a shorter personality test on day 1. It's between the cog and knowledge tests. It's one of those strongly agree, agree, neither agree nor disagree etc.... dealios. I found I mostly agreed or disagreed, a few strongly for both, and only 2 neithers. It had a couple hundred questions. Lots of the same theme but worded differently type questions. "Homeless people deserve sympathy". Several questions later, "I feel bad for people who are down on their luck". These aren't verbatim, but give you an idea. I would say be consistent. You can potentially tank this test and not get the cjo at the end of day 1. This is seperate from the MMPI on day 2. I was just honest on that sucker. I was young and not so responsible at one point in my life, and answered truthfully. And I indicated that my soul has never left my body and I don't hear voices. Be a human with flaws, but not clinically insane. I made it through.

minimwage4 10-12-2014 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1744860)
I don't think the test is "Pass-Fail".

It is a PERSONALITY test.

You cannot Fail to have a personality, but I've seen a few who certainly tried!

The 'test' is to tell the tester what -type- of personality you have. Then they decide if that's the type they want to hire.

One company may want to hire only Type A, another might want Type B, some may want Type C, etc.

What's a type C?

badflaps 10-13-2014 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 1745262)
What's a type C?

They're over on the Alaska thread.

LeeFXDWG 10-13-2014 03:52 AM

Had a buddy get the TBNT for the Hogan. Without going into a full blown description of him, we were both shocked. That was in June.

It stung a bit but he re-engaged. He starts Delta in a little over a week.....

Hogan, MMPI, etc., are all crap. Sadly, the companies feel otherwise......

Good luck to all!

Lee

ClickClickBoom 10-13-2014 08:40 AM

DSM-IV, most pilots will have a little 300.3 and a few more as well. Go find your own and study up on the symptoms and try to understand them. I regularly fly with guys who spend 5 minutes wiping down things with handi wipes, and when I point out a knob that they missed, they immediately add that one to their "process" Pilots are fun and funny as well as a little sad.

tomgoodman 10-13-2014 10:39 AM

Years ago, Delta asked pilot volunteers to take the tests (for 2 hours pay), to establish a profile against which to compare applicants' answers. It was never made clear whether an applicant who scored a close match would be helped or eliminated. :p


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