Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1742953)

These tests HAVE to go. Along with HR having a say in the hiring process. Should be pilots only. Because when that cockpit door is closed, the same things happen behind those closed doors no matter what paint job is on the side of the airplane. Sharing lots of laughs, laughing at the guard police, and running checklists. We are never "ourselves" when we have to answer tmaat questions wearing a tight suit. We are ourselves when we are doing what we do best. Flying and having a good time.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1746518)

I'd disagree. Because with that definition, 99.9% of pilots would say that they are great to fly with. No fly lists wouldn't exist. HR is there to weed people out. Wearing a suit and answering TMAAT makes you outside your comfort zone of a flight deck and that's what it is all about. If you just put somebody in a sim and that was all then almost all would be hired based on that. But being a pilot is not just about stick/rudder skills. Today, the people part is important in terms of getting along with others, helping out, being a team player, etc.

Originally Posted by km1619 (Post 1746115)

I think these airlines should pick up the techniques that ADM Rickover (father of the United States Nuclear Navy) used back in the day to interview new officers going into the nuke Navy.

"When interviewing candidates for the nuclear navy, Rickover would, in order to throw them off and test them, seat them in chairs with shortened front legs and at the same time position them so that the sunlight streamed through specially adjusted venetian blinds straight into their eyes. That way “they had to maintain their wits,” he explained, “while they were sliding off the chair" "

;)

Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1746554)

No $hit. Which is why charter pilots should get first dibs on airline interviews. Flying is only 10% of what we do daily. And I still get about 600 hrs per year. I will try not to smirk when I'm asked in a 121 interview what I've done for customer service or gone the extra mile. *wink.*

Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1746554)

No $hit. Which is why charter pilots should get first dibs on airline interviews. Flying is only 10% of what we do daily. And I still get about 600 hrs per year. I will try not to smirk when I'm asked in a 121 interview what I've done for customer service or gone the extra mile. *wink.*

Originally Posted by Name User (Post 1746576)

100% agree. Just keep in mind, you're fighting "the machine". Those in charge of hiring now are mostly former ex-mil guys, especially at certain airlines (SWA, AA, FedEx, no clue on DAL).

A successful 135 or 91 pilot would make a hell of a good airline guy.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1746717)

First dibs on an interview is arguable. You'll hear different opinions from military pilots, pilots within that major's regional partners, pilots at LCCs, etc. I won't touch this one. *wink*

Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 1746778)

Yes. It is arguable. Don't forget we have tons of military pilots in 135. I'm talking about them as well having the upper hand in hiring over a direct entry pilot mill kid or someone like that.