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Cleared4Tkeoff 01-11-2007 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Roll Inverted and Pull (Post 101717)
American Air Lines flight attendants kept their collective noses in the air.

They have to keep their noses in the air... If they didn't, their pea-sized brains would fall out through their nostrils...










it's a joke... I keed!

HSLD 01-11-2007 02:17 PM

Eye contact with a simple greeting goes a long way.

I know of only a few pilots who put only one application out there when they were looking for a job. Most of us could easily be working for a different carrier - it's just that our current carrier called first.

My point is that we all do the same job - just wearing a different uniform.

I'm amazed when I hear pilots take an us against them attitude towards other pilot groups. Maybe I don't understand why a pilot group is vilified based on airline management actions. Corporate cultures aside, we're not that different - think about how your life would be different if you worked for another carrier. There might be some pay and lifestyle differences but you'd be the same person.

I think the adage that you have to give respect to get respect. So next time you see a pilot that you don't know in uniform, any uniform, give 'em the nod. With what most of us have endured in our careers during the last five years - a gesture of kindness at work would be a surprise!

Velocipede 01-12-2007 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 101766)
I think the adage that you have to give respect to get respect. So next time you see a pilot that you don't know in uniform, any uniform, give 'em the nod!

I've got something to give B6 pilots, but it isn't a nod.

On second thought its probably better to just shun them. Stony silence works wonders.

Pooch 01-13-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 101766)
...I think the adage that you have to give respect to get respect. So next time you see a pilot that you don't know in uniform, any uniform, give 'em the nod.

Agreed. However, it is a bit disillusioning when you see even green, newly-licensed commercial pilots that seem to have a crappy attitude. There are many arrogant seasoned pilots out there as well, and it takes extra effort to continue to try to be friendly to all fellow pilots. The majority, though, make up for the holier-than-thou types.

HSLD 01-13-2007 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 101979)
I've got something to give B6 pilots, but it isn't a nod. On second thought its probably better to just shun them. Stony silence works wonders.

I'd save that treatment for SCABS. Very clearly B6 pilots, as a group, don't fall into that category. B6 has their own forum here because I wanted to give them an anonymous venue to discuss work rule problems, and potential solutions, without fear of retribution. My feeling is that as upgrades slow, route expansion stagnates, and pay plateaus that there will be increased interest by B6 pilots to organize to achieve their collective goals.

That said, I think the point of this thread is recognizing individual pilots and NOT stereotyping a single pilot because of group affiliation.


Originally Posted by Pooch (Post 102385)
Agreed. However, it is a bit disillusioning when you see even green, newly-licensed commercial pilots that seem to have a crappy attitude. There are many arrogant seasoned pilots out there as well, and it takes extra effort to continue to try to be friendly to all fellow pilots. The majority, though, make up for the holier-than-thou types.

I don't think there is a working pilot on the forum who hasn't gone to work with a sour attitude at one time or another. We all have bad days, and I'm sure it's not just pilots who experience this. However, you're right about meeting brand new [working] pilots who rattle-on about the grave injustices of the industry. It's annoying, but they may be emulating the more experienced pilots they've been trained by, or flown with.

I don't think this tread is about "how to be best friends with everyone you fly with" or "fixing a union - one pilot at a time". To me, the idea of give a nod is about basic respect for our profession and showing that respect to the men and women who fill the pilot ranks.

vagabond 01-13-2007 02:22 PM

Much has been said on these forums about how despicable lawyers are, but even we acknowledge each other as professionals. We may get nasty inside a courtroom, but once the judge has called a recess or the trial is over, we are civil and show the proper respect as worthy adversaries. Like all other professions, there will always be some who are just jerks and can't seem to change. Life is like that.

Velocipede 01-14-2007 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 102405)
I'd save that treatment for SCABS. Very clearly B6 pilots, as a group, don't fall into that category..

If you read the definition of SCAB in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, the fit the description perfectly.

Fins Up 01-14-2007 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 102426)
Much has been said on these forums about how despicable lawyers are, but even we acknowledge each other as professionals. We may get nasty inside a courtroom, but once the judge has called a recess or the trial is over, we are civil and show the proper respect as worthy adversaries. Like all other professions, there will always be some who are just jerks and can't seem to change. Life is like that.

So true. Some folks just don't know how to be civil.

fireman0174 01-14-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 102608)
If you read the definition of SCAB in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, the fit the description perfectly.

Have YOU ever been on strike and watched real scabs cross your picket line in an attempt to take your job away? Many here have, and I can tell you from personal experience that it causes one to "narrow" the definition of a scab to only the truly despicable.

Have you ever walked a picket line and watch scabs trty to take your job away?

I can remember when people had similiar feelings about SWA. They sure don't say that today, do they?

Save the use of the word for real scum.

Velocipede 01-15-2007 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by fireman0174 (Post 102627)
Have YOU ever been on strike and watched real scabs cross your picket line in an attempt to take your job away? Many here have, and I can tell you from personal experience that it causes one to "narrow" the definition of a scab to only the truly despicable.

Have you ever walked a picket line and watch scabs trty to take your job away?

Yes. Twice. And the definition fits both catagories of scum.


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