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Pogey Bait 12-23-2014 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1788760)
They're extremely safe. Apparently the combination of my wings, wedding ring, and name tag set off the detector in Mobile and I got the 15 minute pat-down...literally.

Next time tell them just how much you are enjoying the moment, especially in those hard to reach areas. 15 minutes is absurd.

LNL76 12-23-2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1789104)
They do now Faux just got a hold of it.

Good! It's about damn time!

Lobaeux 12-23-2014 04:06 PM

Rampers go through random TSA checks, but not every day. Some days TSA is there, some days not. Keeps the rampers on their toes.
In addition, they do go through a 10 year criminal check, supply references, and do drug tests.
A bad apple making things bad for everyone else going to the airport.
I hope they throw the book at that guy, then throw away his jail key.

rvr1800 12-23-2014 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1789402)
Rampers go through random TSA checks, but not every day. Some days TSA is there, some days not. Keeps the rampers on their toes.
In addition, they do go through a 10 year criminal check, supply references, and do drug tests.
A bad apple making things bad for everyone else going to the airport.
I hope they throw the book at that guy, then throw away his jail key.

That's not good enough. They need to be screened. It's defies logic that we allow anyone, aside from crew that are given flight deck acces during flight, access to the aircraft without being screened.

Lobaeux 12-23-2014 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 1789454)
That's not good enough. They need to be screened. It's defies logic that we allow anyone, aside from crew that are given flight deck acces during flight, access to the aircraft without being screened.

I totally agree, just saying what happens.

Should be like down south, they've got security at the plane that checks the local workers coming on and off the plane, then security gets checked themselves. Don't know how effective it is, but it's there.

Big E 757 12-23-2014 07:10 PM

I always get frustrated when I get to my gate in the AM at one of our hubs and have to wait for the gate agent to show up and check my ID before going to the airplane. When I get verified and go down, there are catering crews and cleaners walking all over the aircraft that haven't even been through security. They're ok being on the aircraft but I have to wait for a gate agent to check me out and make sure it's ok for me to go down.

Stinsat7 12-23-2014 07:21 PM

Certainly not a wrist slapping. Getting caught with one illegal handgun in New York City is mandatory prison sentence. Let alone 18 illegal handguns.

RockyBoy 12-23-2014 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1789402)
Rampers go through random TSA checks, but not every day. Some days TSA is there, some days not. Keeps the rampers on their toes.

Just takes one guy that goes through and gets a random check to text his buddy that the TSA is there. Not hard to figure out when the random checks are happening these days.

Screening everyone is the only thing that will stop this kind of activity.

RockyBoy 12-23-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Lobaeux (Post 1789473)
I totally agree, just saying what happens.

Should be like down south, they've got security at the plane that checks the local workers coming on and off the plane, then security gets checked themselves. Don't know how effective it is, but it's there.

This wouldn't have stopped this though.

The guy came through the unscreened employee entrance with his bag of guns then went into the passenger terminal where he handed the bag off to his buddy in a restroom. His buddy then boarded the flight and took the guns to New York.

If he gets a good lawyer, he might not even get any charges for gun trafficking. I'm sure he has already said he was unaware of what was in the bag and was just paid to bring it to the restroom.

jamesrhatcher 12-23-2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1789065)
Ummm, I was referring to baggage handlers NOT going through TSA. Not sure what you thought I was referring to. It's ludicrous and security theatre to have crewmembers who put their butts on a plane to get patted down and sometimes harrassed in front of regular pax while others who never leave the ground slip through a side door.

Sorry for misunderstanding.


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