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shred 02-19-2015 08:35 AM

Furlough history at UAL and DAL
 
What is the pilot furlough history at Delta and United? When, how many and what percentage of the pilot group?

Thanks

Packrat 02-19-2015 09:56 AM

Trying to make a decision based on that information is like trying to predict when the Yellowstone super volcano is going to erupt.

True, United has furloughed twice in the last 15 years and Delta hasn't, but the airline business turns on a dime sometimes. Who is to say the situations can't/won't be reversed?

TeddyKGB 02-19-2015 10:02 AM

FWIW, Delta has a little safety net built in. If a black swan arrives approx 500 pilots could flow down to CZ if they choose. Up to you to decide if that's better than nothing.

Speedbird2263 02-19-2015 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by TeddyKGB (Post 1828110)
FWIW, Delta has a little safety net built in. If a black swan arrives approx 500 pilots could flow down to CZ if they choose. Up to you to decide if that's better than nothing.

Just curious, what then of the displaced CZ pilots?

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Scoop 02-19-2015 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by shred (Post 1828078)
What is the pilot furlough history at Delta and United? When, how many and what percentage of the pilot group?

Thanks

Two major furlough periods at DAL:

Early to mid 90s, about 500 furloughed due to industry downturn.
Early to mid 2000s about 1300 furloughed due to 911 and subsequent industry downturn.


Scoop

80ktsClamp 02-19-2015 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Speedbird2263 (Post 1828119)
Just curious, what then of the displaced CZ pilots?

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They fall off the bottom.

FWIW, this "safety net" was likely what prevented a small furlough in the 2009ish time frame due to the financial implications.

TeddyKGB 02-19-2015 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1828144)
They fall off the bottom.

FWIW, this "safety net" was likely what prevented a small furlough in the 2009ish time frame due to the financial implications.

Good point 80Kts. Added value for sure.

ugasucks 02-19-2015 02:13 PM

Delta furloughed in 1973 but called it a reassignment and offered jobs on the ramp. But you ask any of them and it was a furlough how ever Delta spun it then and now. Recalled them in 1976.

BigGuns 02-19-2015 03:07 PM

Trying to predict the future by looking at the past is like trying to drive down a country road at night with no headlights while looking out the back window!

Consolidation has made this industry very very different thanks at any time in the past. It is totally ludicrous to look at the the past and try to predict the future!

rvr1800 02-19-2015 03:46 PM

Asking a question on APC that would have anything negative in the response about Delta is like trying to walk a tightrope over a swamp full of crocodiles with low self esteem who for some reason are asking for wind checks seconds after receiving one, while also transmitting PA's on guard.

It was a simple question fellas. Didnt imply anything negative about either airline nor any future decisions to be made.


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