SWA Weight Restriction?
03-03-2015 | 10:37 AM
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03-03-2015 | 10:49 AM
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03-03-2015 | 03:36 PM
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Same thing happened to me trying to get out of mdw a few months ago on a -300. I was listed for the jump seat and about 40 prior I was paged by the gate agent. She told me the flight was weight restricted and as a result my listing was cancelled and was SOL. I was surprised that they would not at least keep the listing to see what happens and if would be possible to get on. The gate agent said her hands were tied and I was not getting on. Luckily the captain came off the plane to get something to eat. I told him I was trying to get on and he came back up at the end of boarding on got me. Always been treated super well by the southwest guys but was very surprised that I was taken out of the system based on pre planned weights.
03-03-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Let's see, I've been working for the airlines since I started as a ramper at 18 - some 30+ years ago. So yea, I understand the concept of fleet modernization.
Kernal?
Do you understand the concept that replacing the classics is taking place and that much more goes in to that financial decision than you apparently fathom?
Have you been through PAE and seen the number of used -700 conversions?
Kernal?
Do you understand the concept that replacing the classics is taking place and that much more goes in to that financial decision than you apparently fathom?
Have you been through PAE and seen the number of used -700 conversions?
And I too began my career on the ramp 29 years ago, so you've got me by a year
Considering it's 2015 and the company makes a billion dollars a year, the decision to retire those pigs should have been made years ago. We make money despite ourselves. Tripping over dollars to save dimes
Leaving cargo/pax behind, flying at lower altitudes i.e. burning more fuel, max blast takeoffs reducing engine life, and if you're a true team player RNP approaches aren't available to the -300's either. And let's not even get into the Spindles, lack of parts, and the re skinning of the whole fleet.
I could go on and on but these are just a few of the items that lean towards replacing the classics years ago. So to answer your question, yes I can "fathom" the financial decisions that go into retiring a fleet. Apparently our company doesn't though
Back in 1985 the -300 was a fine machine. it's 2015, time to turn the page
03-03-2015 | 04:27 PM
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Let's see, I've been working for the airlines since I started as a ramper at 18 - some 30+ years ago. So yea, I understand the concept of fleet modernization.
Kernal?
Do you understand the concept that replacing the classics is taking place and that much more goes in to that financial decision than you apparently fathom?
Have you been through PAE and seen the number of used -700 conversions?
Kernal?
Do you understand the concept that replacing the classics is taking place and that much more goes in to that financial decision than you apparently fathom?
Have you been through PAE and seen the number of used -700 conversions?
Soon a working "concept" needs to become reality. Flying around old junk in the sky is not sustainable nor desirable.
03-03-2015 | 05:27 PM
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I apologize for the "kernal" comment
And I too began my career on the ramp 29 years ago, so you've got me by a year
Considering it's 2015 and the company makes a billion dollars a year, the decision to retire those pigs should have been made years ago. We make money despite ourselves. Tripping over dollars to save dimes
Leaving cargo/pax behind, flying at lower altitudes i.e. burning more fuel, max blast takeoffs reducing engine life, and if you're a true team player RNP approaches aren't available to the -300's either. And let's not even get into the Spindles, lack of parts, and the re skinning of the whole fleet.
I could go on and on but these are just a few of the items that lean towards replacing the classics years ago. So to answer your question, yes I can "fathom" the financial decisions that go into retiring a fleet. Apparently our company doesn't though
Back in 1985 the -300 was a fine machine. it's 2015, time to turn the page
And I too began my career on the ramp 29 years ago, so you've got me by a year
Considering it's 2015 and the company makes a billion dollars a year, the decision to retire those pigs should have been made years ago. We make money despite ourselves. Tripping over dollars to save dimes
Leaving cargo/pax behind, flying at lower altitudes i.e. burning more fuel, max blast takeoffs reducing engine life, and if you're a true team player RNP approaches aren't available to the -300's either. And let's not even get into the Spindles, lack of parts, and the re skinning of the whole fleet.
I could go on and on but these are just a few of the items that lean towards replacing the classics years ago. So to answer your question, yes I can "fathom" the financial decisions that go into retiring a fleet. Apparently our company doesn't though
Back in 1985 the -300 was a fine machine. it's 2015, time to turn the page
What exactly was the "kernal" comment supposed to imply?
Oh and BTW the 300 pays the same. Not that I wouldn't rather fly the ones that are more advanced.
The Oscar
P. S. I certainly understand your concerns, but I am not going to refuse to fly them unless someone can convince me they should not be flown.
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03-03-2015 | 05:36 PM
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There must be more of them.
Someone is lying to us.The Oscar
03-03-2015 | 08:03 PM
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I apologize for the "kernal" comment
And I too began my career on the ramp 29 years ago, so you've got me by a year
Considering it's 2015 and the company makes a billion dollars a year, the decision to retire those pigs should have been made years ago. We make money despite ourselves. Tripping over dollars to save dimes
Leaving cargo/pax behind, flying at lower altitudes i.e. burning more fuel, max blast takeoffs reducing engine life, and if you're a true team player RNP approaches aren't available to the -300's either. And let's not even get into the Spindles, lack of parts, and the re skinning of the whole fleet.
I could go on and on but these are just a few of the items that lean towards replacing the classics years ago. So to answer your question, yes I can "fathom" the financial decisions that go into retiring a fleet. Apparently our company doesn't though
Back in 1985 the -300 was a fine machine. it's 2015, time to turn the page
And I too began my career on the ramp 29 years ago, so you've got me by a year
Considering it's 2015 and the company makes a billion dollars a year, the decision to retire those pigs should have been made years ago. We make money despite ourselves. Tripping over dollars to save dimes
Leaving cargo/pax behind, flying at lower altitudes i.e. burning more fuel, max blast takeoffs reducing engine life, and if you're a true team player RNP approaches aren't available to the -300's either. And let's not even get into the Spindles, lack of parts, and the re skinning of the whole fleet.
I could go on and on but these are just a few of the items that lean towards replacing the classics years ago. So to answer your question, yes I can "fathom" the financial decisions that go into retiring a fleet. Apparently our company doesn't though
Back in 1985 the -300 was a fine machine. it's 2015, time to turn the page
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