Degree requirement
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Agreed. I'd also add: taking honors level courses in high school for free college credit, going to local community college for 2 years, then going to an in state school, applying for every scholarship you can find no matter how unrelated or small the amount, and working diligently so as not to have to retake courses due to failure or take an extra year to finish your degree.
Those strategies should at least leave you with significantly less debt than your peers.
Unless you go to an Ivy League school, the school name on your diploma matters little. Too many kids fall victim to big name schools and their fancy brochures and websites and reputations and sports team msrketing.
Those strategies should at least leave you with significantly less debt than your peers.
Unless you go to an Ivy League school, the school name on your diploma matters little. Too many kids fall victim to big name schools and their fancy brochures and websites and reputations and sports team msrketing.
That right there. I was initially dead set on universities with the most impressive names. Then I did some math and realized in-state was insanely cheaper and better scholarships were attainable. Few people know the name of my school but it was a quality, well accredited program and I was debt free 2.5 years after graduation (on regional airline pay no less). The prices you pay for a brand name these days are insane.
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That right there. I was initially dead set on universities with the most impressive names. Then I did some math and realized in-state was insanely cheaper and better scholarships were attainable. Few people know the name of my school but it was a quality, well accredited program and I was debt free 2.5 years after graduation (on regional airline pay no less). The prices you pay for a brand name these days are insane.
#136
That right there. I was initially dead set on universities with the most impressive names. Then I did some math and realized in-state was insanely cheaper and better scholarships were attainable. Few people know the name of my school but it was a quality, well accredited program and I was debt free 2.5 years after graduation (on regional airline pay no less). The prices you pay for a brand name these days are insane.
Brand name is really only worth the money if...
1) You're going to compete at the pinnacle of your chosen field where the name-recognition gives you more horsepower and you may have better exposure to cutting-edge science. Ie a top-notch engineering Phd is better served by a degree from MIT than State U, and a high-end law firm needs ivy-league grads for credibility to justify high fees if nothing else.
2) You're going into a field where connections are important, ie B-school. Your Stanford classmates are collectively going faster and further than at lower-tier schools.
In aviation it doesn't matter as much (except DAL and maybe a few others give bonus points for high-end schools, but that's probably not worth a lot of debt unless you were going anyway).
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Folks aren't paying for an education from those places. They are paying for cachet and life-long insider access, preferential treatment, networking, and favorable bias.
And they get it, too. Esp. from their own kind.
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A four year degree was a requirement to get in to the military as an officer back in the day (I assume it is still a requirement?). Not sure of the value but I guess it shows you can accomplish something. I have found my Animal Science degree invaluable, especially on long flights where good conversation can be exhausted, and discussion of 22% protein feed rations and optimum carcass weights are almost interesting.
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A technician can get the job done (and the military has no shortage), the heavy questions are should we?, how?, when?, and why?
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