Originally Posted by NGINEWHOISWHAT (Post 108589)

I don't fly for CAL, but that's great news. If age sixty holds, that should come down right?

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108593)

At that rate, it will be a 2.5 year upgrade for me!! Shows you timing is everything. So little is in our control:)

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108593)

At that rate, it will be a 2.5 year upgrade for me!! Shows you timing is everything. So little is in our control:)

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 108682)

Capt went junior to me at UAL at exactly 3 years. But after some thougt, I did not take it. Being the junior puke on reserve on a 737 is about like that rubber dogpoo duty on Top Gun the movie. :D

Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 108862)

Feb 98 hire was the junior wide body CA slot. Not bad. 9 years to be a B756 CA.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 108886)

Like any other airline, in that's guys case, 9 years to widebody CA. That doesn't mean that a guy hired at CAL today can expect to be a wide body CA in 9 years.

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108896)

Your right. More like 5!;)

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 108922)

What's scarier? The regional airline that hires a 500 hr pilot to fly an RJ? Or the legacy that hires sons/daughters/interns pilots with 2000 hrs, never been a Captain, and can hold widebody CA at 5 years? As you say.

Originally Posted by NGINEWHOISWHAT (Post 108936)

Neither one scares me. 1500 hour jet captains, while it doesn't scare me does cause concern. THAT'S what you should be worried about.

Tom

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108896)

Your right. More like 5!;)

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 108940)

Until the merger/downturn/oil crisis/9-11. Then it all comes to a halt.;)

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 108922)

What's scarier? The regional airline that hires a 500 hr pilot to fly an RJ? Or the legacy that hires sons/daughters/interns pilots with 2000 hrs, never been a Captain, and can hold widebody CA at 5 years? As you say.

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 108940)

Until the merger/downturn/oil crisis/9-11. Then it all comes to a halt.;)

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 108941)

Or age 65 passes.

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108998)

...Not just the time, it's the type of time a person has...

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108998)

Just for what it's worth. I was hired with 2000 hours, not a son, intern, etc. and will probably be a widebody captain at 5 years. I can promise you I am more than qualified. Not just the time, it's the type of time a person has.

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 108999)

Why worry about that brother....nothing you can do but play todays rules.

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 109041)

Thats right, today's rules. But tomorrow's rules can be quite different. So many guys were 3 year captains only to be 1000 from the bottom at 5 years. Thats ok unless you have already bought the captain's house, boat, airplane, ect. Go ahead, play by today's rules. Just realize that the rules change quickly. There is nothing like a monthly bump letter rather than a monthy vacancy to dampen your spirits.:(

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 109038)

Wow, qualified. And humble to boot.

Do you think that YOU are the ONLY one with quality flight time? Does that mean that they should negotiate a side letter so that superior pilots like you with "quality" flight time can bypass the more senior son/daughter/intern pilots who never had any PIC time?

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 109162)

Nope. Just means you can get hired with low time if the time is what they like. I don't give a **** about sons, daughters, interns. I just play the seniority game like everyone else. If your looking for humble, you shouldn't have come to a pilot forum..the needlepoint forum is next door. My whole point was that 2000 hours in a Viper or C-5 or whatever is little more likely to get you in the door than that 2000 hours of dual given in a 152. Not boasting. Just facting. BTW, Sounds like your daddy works at the airline boy!

Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 109012)

I agree completely. I am one who has very advanced flight time compared to the amount of TT I have. Sure I was hired at a regional with just under 700 TT, but over half of that was multi and almost one third was turbine (mostly jet... I had a really good internship). I had great frustration when I was denied jobs because someone with 1000 hours in a 152 (in the right seat) was somehow more qualified to fly a jet than I was. Call me young and naive, but I don't see how flying another 300hrs in the pattern in a 152 could have possibly made me a more qualified pilot.

Please be nice... This could just be my youth and in-experience talking.

Originally Posted by reCALcitrant (Post 109162)

Nope. Just means you can get hired with low time if the time is what they like. I don't give a **** about sons, daughters, interns. I just play the seniority game like everyone else. If your looking for humble, you shouldn't have come to a pilot forum..the needlepoint forum is next door. My whole point was that 2000 hours in a Viper or C-5 or whatever is little more likely to get you in the door than that 2000 hours of dual given in a 152. Not boasting. Just facting. BTW, Sounds like your daddy works at the airline boy!

Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 109216)

leave it alone...this guy is as jealous as it gets...i am glad he is off of me and on to you..good luck reCALcitrant...

Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 109012)

I agree completely. I am one who has very advanced flight time compared to the amount of TT I have. Sure I was hired at a regional with just under 700 TT, but over half of that was multi and almost one third was turbine (mostly jet... I had a really good internship). I had great frustration when I was denied jobs because someone with 1000 hours in a 152 (in the right seat) was somehow more qualified to fly a jet than I was. Call me young and naive, but I don't see how flying another 300hrs in the pattern in a 152 could have possibly made me a more qualified pilot.

Please be nice... This could just be my youth and in-experience talking.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 108886)

Like any other airline, in that's guys case, 9 years to widebody CA. That doesn't mean that a guy hired at CAL today can expect to be a wide body CA in 9 years.

Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 108988)

9 Years to hold 756 CA does not make you a wide body captain. It makes you a junior CA on reserve flying the 757 to Dublin/Shannon (Shublin). Only the top 20% of 756 CA's get to fly the 767. That will change for the worse when the 767-200's start leaving.

Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 109321)

You are correct. But I just love it when someone has to make a comment that everyone already knows. Let me guess, just because last week the lottery numbers where ****** doesn't mean they are going to be that this week. Thanks for your wisdom.

Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 109358)

CAL is just the flavor of the week boys, wait until they merge that will be a blast, all the new FO's hahhahahaahah that would be great, some of you egomaniacs (newer FO's) might do ya some good ( I was blessed to share a van with a CAL crew today, FA' s were hot, Pilots were Di***, Apparntly in training over at SCAB Central (CAL) you arent allowed to hold doors or say hello or converse with Express guys, and no, not a chip on the old shoulder, just an observation..................

Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 109406)

I said in another post that I haven't seen a CAL pilot treat an express pilot poorly. Apparently you attract d%^$ heads, or you have the personality that makes them. One reason I know your full of S%## is because I haven't seen a hot FA.

Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 109358)

CAL is just the flavor of the week boys, wait until they merge that will be a blast, all the new FO's hahhahahaahah that would be great, some of you egomaniacs (newer FO's) might do ya some good ( I was blessed to share a van with a CAL crew today, FA' s were hot, Pilots were Di***, Apparntly in training over at SCAB Central (CAL) you arent allowed to hold doors or say hello or converse with Express guys, and no, not a chip on the old shoulder, just an observation..................