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The regionals are a dangerous place to be learning how to fly a twin engine aircraft. I, myself got hired at a regional with 300 hours back in the 90s but we had a thorough sim evaluation and initial training was up or out attitude, no second chances..We were also required to do a turbine transition course in a beech 1900 level d sim...All before starting initial new hire training..With my whopping 300 hours I had 70 hours multi time..These minimums were for flightsafety academy interns/instructors..Normal mins for regionals were around 1200TT/200 multi and American Eagle and Business Express required 1500TT/300 multi..How times have changed..

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Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2104584)

That was actually very common for the past decade. We were hiring folks with 251 hours and 26 multi. It met the legal mins at the time. Now it's just 1501TT with 26 multi to get into an RJ.

Hmm... Euroland, Asia, Africa, South America. Yep... That about sums it up... 25 hours of multi and a type rating on the 737 or Airbus and off to a major carrier as a cadet. Nothing new... It's been that way for many years.

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Originally Posted by NASA (Post 2104644)

I had over 300 hours of "real life" multi-time when I got hired at my first 121 airline. Outside of the 15hours I spent getting my multi ticket, I never once used those "specialized" multi-techniques if you will, before I got hired. So in essence my experience at 15hrs or 300hrs flying my multi like a single was no different. Just an observation. YMMV

-2263

Hired at 525/33 ten years ago. Haven't died yet.

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Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2104728)

Hired at 525/33 ten years ago. Haven't died yet.

Little different...sort of...but

Careful with the Mojo.
Flight school I attended bragged about never having a crash and within 2 years, 2 crashes and 4 dead.

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2104621)

Look at all the F16 pilots hired by the airlines over the years, how much 'Multi Time' do you think they had when hired?

I remember some who had to get the 'Centerline Thrust' restriction removed when they checked out as F/O's!

Yeah, that's a great comparison. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by The Waco Kid (Post 2104728)

Hired at 525/33 ten years ago. Haven't died yet.

Flew with lots of newhire FOs that had 200hrs when I was a brand new captain with only 1500TT in 2005. You figured out which FOs had a clue and which ones didn't relatively quickly.

But for a while it was the blind leading the blind and deaf. But we all survived it. The worst incident we had of a sub-2000hr total flight time between the two air crew was a crew that lost all their prop blades on one engine. They survived that one too and are both flying for major (AA and UAL) now.

At the end of the day it's not worth being a drama queen over this issue. If your sim partner can't perform to standard, then the new guy will be either recycled or released from training. And guess what Say Alt, same applies to you, even though have more than 25 hours of multi time.

Relax man. No one is trying to be a drama queen. Please forgive me if I think putting someone with 25 hrs multi-time into a high performance jet isn't a great idea. Has it been done? Sure. Good idea? I don't think so. We're talking about Mesa, after all.