Integrity is not an MEL item
04-17-2016, 05:44 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Because none of those people could have ever served in combat,
04-17-2016, 05:55 PM
#42
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Way to focus in on the most benign words of what was a well thought out, and informative OP, and hijack the entire thread to bicker about generation relations. Well done gents.
Albie won't say it, so I will. For more great information and advice on navigating the airline hiring process, look for an Emerald Coast seminar in your area. Well worth the money, especially if you have never been to a "tell me about a time" style interview, as I had not when I left active duty. People will tell you that this company or that doesn't like it when applicants use interview prep. Well, if you don't know how to build your arsenal of stories, you are going to be unprepared. The trick is using the prep, but still being yourself. That is my 2 cents, anyway.
Albie won't say it, so I will. For more great information and advice on navigating the airline hiring process, look for an Emerald Coast seminar in your area. Well worth the money, especially if you have never been to a "tell me about a time" style interview, as I had not when I left active duty. People will tell you that this company or that doesn't like it when applicants use interview prep. Well, if you don't know how to build your arsenal of stories, you are going to be unprepared. The trick is using the prep, but still being yourself. That is my 2 cents, anyway.
04-17-2016, 06:14 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by filejw
Really because they look just like the thousands of folks I hauled back and forth to the ME over the last 15 years .
04-17-2016, 06:16 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by slimothy
Way to focus in on the most benign words of what was a well thought out, and informative OP, and hijack the entire thread to bicker about generation relations. Well done gents.
Albie won't say it, so I will. For more great information and advice on navigating the airline hiring process, look for an Emerald Coast seminar in your area. Well worth the money, especially if you have never been to a "tell me about a time" style interview, as I had not when I left active duty. People will tell you that this company or that doesn't like it when applicants use interview prep. Well, if you don't know how to build your arsenal of stories, you are going to be unprepared. The trick is using the prep, but still being yourself. That is my 2 cents, anyway.
Albie won't say it, so I will. For more great information and advice on navigating the airline hiring process, look for an Emerald Coast seminar in your area. Well worth the money, especially if you have never been to a "tell me about a time" style interview, as I had not when I left active duty. People will tell you that this company or that doesn't like it when applicants use interview prep. Well, if you don't know how to build your arsenal of stories, you are going to be unprepared. The trick is using the prep, but still being yourself. That is my 2 cents, anyway.
Well said
Integrity isn't generational. Own your ****.
04-17-2016, 06:26 PM
#45
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Fantastic post, Albie.
Doing the right thing when everybody is looking is hard - doing the right thing when nobody is looking is harder.
It is hard enough to grab the brass ring without playing Russian roulette with your resume and application...
Doing the right thing when everybody is looking is hard - doing the right thing when nobody is looking is harder.
It is hard enough to grab the brass ring without playing Russian roulette with your resume and application...
04-17-2016, 06:26 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
+1
Confession is good for the soul. Btw, I laughed at the things you want to get credit for.
Maybe if they had been drafted. As it is, those who served in combat in the ME were 100% volunteers.
Confession is good for the soul. Btw, I laughed at the things you want to get credit for.
Maybe if they had been drafted. As it is, those who served in combat in the ME were 100% volunteers.
04-17-2016, 06:37 PM
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Integrity goes without saying, big data is the airlines friend. Its too bad however that a service like yours is even needed, do the guys that have the gouge really that much better, or just prepared better by using your service. What about the carriers that use a sim test as part of the interview process and some of the boys sell the interview checkride the night before...are you really getting a better pilot.
Saw a recent banner ad extolling the virtue of using 1 service because of the 7.45 mill potential, was that including the results of bankruptcy, mergers; external event.
I get it, you're doing a service for the carriers, just curious do the carriers pay you or is it just the applicants?
For all the attempts to put out the perfect product, we still have the brothel pilot, the ones that have tried to carry a weapon though security, smuggling money into the country etc etc.
Rant over.
Saw a recent banner ad extolling the virtue of using 1 service because of the 7.45 mill potential, was that including the results of bankruptcy, mergers; external event.
I get it, you're doing a service for the carriers, just curious do the carriers pay you or is it just the applicants?
For all the attempts to put out the perfect product, we still have the brothel pilot, the ones that have tried to carry a weapon though security, smuggling money into the country etc etc.
Rant over.
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04-17-2016, 07:24 PM
#48
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Iceman,
I posted this because I like helping people, and I care about our profession. I have wanted to be an airline pilot since pre-school, and feel like I get to live a life-long dream. As a captain at FedEx, I consider myself blessed beyond measure.
By virtue of a little garage business I started in 2002, I have had the opportunity to meet literally thousands of pilots who had dreams similar to mine. And yeah--after years of passing on some skills honed as an F-15 instructor pilot, CRM instructor/facilitator, and pageant judge/coach I have turned what I loved doing anyway into a pretty successful business.
The reason I posted this, however, was as a general warning to a bunch of wannabes (like I was 15 years ago) to remind them not to blow the chance of a lifetime before you even start. Nothing more. I'm laying over in Saigon after a delightful flight in an almost brand new 767. I love what I do, and I'm proud I get to do it. Its worth the effort to get here, and I want other people to have similar opportunities. I could give two ****s less if you prep, or don't, or if you use us, or someone else. Just don't sabatoge yourself before you even start.
And--I owe sort of an apology. Reflecting a bit, OF COURSE it would be 40ish and under, because that's the majority of the guys and gals trying to get hired now. The over 40 are probably already where they are going to be. I didn't mean to sound anti-millennial. And thinking back, I can remember quite a few examples of bad head-work and lying done by people I knew or knew of as long as I've been in aviation. My frustration is I just seem to be seeing a bit more lately, and I'm not sure why. I don't know if its desperation by some waiting for the call, or if we are getting deeper into the barrel of potential applicants now. Whatever the reason, its distressing. This is a great gig. I have a lot of friends and hope to have family in the business eventually. Its worth doing right so you have the chance to enter the arena. That is all.
I posted this because I like helping people, and I care about our profession. I have wanted to be an airline pilot since pre-school, and feel like I get to live a life-long dream. As a captain at FedEx, I consider myself blessed beyond measure.
By virtue of a little garage business I started in 2002, I have had the opportunity to meet literally thousands of pilots who had dreams similar to mine. And yeah--after years of passing on some skills honed as an F-15 instructor pilot, CRM instructor/facilitator, and pageant judge/coach I have turned what I loved doing anyway into a pretty successful business.
The reason I posted this, however, was as a general warning to a bunch of wannabes (like I was 15 years ago) to remind them not to blow the chance of a lifetime before you even start. Nothing more. I'm laying over in Saigon after a delightful flight in an almost brand new 767. I love what I do, and I'm proud I get to do it. Its worth the effort to get here, and I want other people to have similar opportunities. I could give two ****s less if you prep, or don't, or if you use us, or someone else. Just don't sabatoge yourself before you even start.
And--I owe sort of an apology. Reflecting a bit, OF COURSE it would be 40ish and under, because that's the majority of the guys and gals trying to get hired now. The over 40 are probably already where they are going to be. I didn't mean to sound anti-millennial. And thinking back, I can remember quite a few examples of bad head-work and lying done by people I knew or knew of as long as I've been in aviation. My frustration is I just seem to be seeing a bit more lately, and I'm not sure why. I don't know if its desperation by some waiting for the call, or if we are getting deeper into the barrel of potential applicants now. Whatever the reason, its distressing. This is a great gig. I have a lot of friends and hope to have family in the business eventually. Its worth doing right so you have the chance to enter the arena. That is all.
04-17-2016, 08:01 PM
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For more than two decades, researchers of different stripes have examined humanity's less-than-truthful underbelly. This is what they have found
The experts who study lying are alarmed by what they are seeing in 2016, and by its ramifications.
"Dishonesty is contagious," said the University of Nottingham's Simon Gaechter.
"We've become kind of numb to it," said Pamela Meyer, the Washington based author of the book "Liespotting" and chief executive officer of the private firm Calibrate, which that trains people and companies about how to spot deception.
But there's a high cost in everyday society — a loss of trust that is difficult to regain — when someone is discovered to be lying, Lee said. There are also costs to the liar, he said, noting studies that measure the effect of deception on the body and brain and how much energy it takes to create and maintain a lie.
"When you tell lies it costs your brain a heckuva lot more resources than when you tell the truth," Lee said.
The experts who study lying are alarmed by what they are seeing in 2016, and by its ramifications.
"Dishonesty is contagious," said the University of Nottingham's Simon Gaechter.
"We've become kind of numb to it," said Pamela Meyer, the Washington based author of the book "Liespotting" and chief executive officer of the private firm Calibrate, which that trains people and companies about how to spot deception.
But there's a high cost in everyday society — a loss of trust that is difficult to regain — when someone is discovered to be lying, Lee said. There are also costs to the liar, he said, noting studies that measure the effect of deception on the body and brain and how much energy it takes to create and maintain a lie.
"When you tell lies it costs your brain a heckuva lot more resources than when you tell the truth," Lee said.
Read the full article here:
We all lie, scientists say
04-17-2016, 08:50 PM
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So when the interviewer asks if "14 Space Shuttle landings" is correct, your best answer is:1. It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
2. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
3. Yeah, that's the ticket!
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