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Crazy Canuck 05-13-2016 08:26 AM

KCM
 
Just got an email saying that KCM may no longer be used internationally for personal travel. CLEARLY a knee jerk reaction by lawmakers to the one dumbass FA that blew it in LAX.

Anyone know who we can write to voice our Displeasure?

KC135 05-13-2016 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 2128393)
Just got an email saying that KCM may no longer be used internationally for personal travel. CLEARLY a knee jerk reaction by lawmakers to the one dumbass FA that blew it in LAX.

Anyone know who we can write to voice our Displeasure?

This was actually in the works before all of the recent KCM incidents, including the one you mentioned. It was a push from ICAO to standardize international policy worldwide and not a punitive reaction.

Crazy Canuck 05-13-2016 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 2128404)
This was actually in the works before all of the recent KCM incidents, including the one you mentioned. It was a push from ICAO to standardize international policy worldwide and not a punitive reaction.

Interesting. Thanks for the info

GangtaMoose 05-13-2016 08:34 PM

yeah this was already in the works before the jetblue fa incident.

FirstClass 05-14-2016 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 2128393)
Just got an email saying that KCM may no longer be used internationally for personal travel. CLEARLY a knee jerk reaction by lawmakers to the one dumbass FA that blew it in LAX.

Anyone know who we can write to voice our Displeasure?

CLEARLY a knee jerk reaction you say?

rickair7777 05-14-2016 06:54 AM

Yeah, that was sketchy policy to begin with. We require other nations to meet certain standards for security screening of pax inbound to the US, so we can't really send pax their way who circumvented the system...didn't pass the sniff test.

Knotcher 05-14-2016 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2128887)
Yeah, that was sketchy policy to begin with. We require other nations to meet certain standards for security screening of pax inbound to the US, so we can't really send pax their way who circumvented the system...didn't pass the sniff test.

KCM is not circumventing...it is a screening of KNOWN CREWMEMBERS.

But whatever, I guess it is good enough for operating a jet to another country but if you are a passenger to that same country all the sudden you are a possible criminal.

Crazy Canuck 05-14-2016 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 2128821)
CLEARLY a knee jerk reaction you say?

Well if you read my second post...you'll see an admission of guilt.

At least you must understand how one could think that without prior knowledge...

Hunt234 05-15-2016 11:06 AM

What I was sent from Teamsters

"In the coming weeks, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will be implementing a major change to the KCM program. Crewmembers traveling on international personal travel (not business travel or deadheading) can no longer use the KCM lanes and must be screened through a passenger screening checkpoint. (Pre-Check or other lanes). Crew members are no longer allowed to use the KCM access point for personal travel from the U.S. to an international location."

How they would know whether or not I was going on company business or personal travel is anyones guess.

tunes 05-15-2016 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Hunt234 (Post 2129528)
What I was sent from Teamsters

"In the coming weeks, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will be implementing a major change to the KCM program. Crewmembers traveling on international personal travel (not business travel or deadheading) can no longer use the KCM lanes and must be screened through a passenger screening checkpoint. (Pre-Check or other lanes). Crew members are no longer allowed to use the KCM access point for personal travel from the U.S. to an international location."

How they would know whether or not I was going on company business or personal travel is anyones guess.



They won't unless they look into it....but this isn't something worth pressing to test.


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