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trip 09-21-2016 01:02 PM

DL still has a SLC-LHR also.

Thedude 09-21-2016 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by DickBurns (Post 2207190)
Does AA still have the LHR flight from RDU? That was the non rev express 10 years ago. Not sure anymore.

Yup.

I have done a little non-rev-tracking on that flight and there are usually several open seats in Y. Biz is usually full.

todd1200 09-21-2016 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207475)
Very helpful, thank you!! One more question: when departing the UK, how does one obtain a boarding pass and get through security without an assigned seat? (Assuming I'm not on VS). I've never nonrevved internationally on a pax carrier so I'm not aware of the process. And how does one pay departure taxes?

Thanks in advance :)

The ticket agent and will give you a seat request card. Depending on loads, they might not let you go through security until just before departure. If it's wide open, they might let you through early (that's been my experience in MAN anyway). Zed fare on Virgin can be a great option, but you may not be able to sit in business/first. In my experience it was also more expensive than non-revving on DL ($100 as S3 on DL vs. $300 for ZED fare on VS).

Trent900 09-21-2016 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207475)
Very helpful, thank you!! One more question: when departing the UK, how does one obtain a boarding pass and get through security without an assigned seat? (Assuming I'm not on VS). I've never nonrevved internationally on a pax carrier so I'm not aware of the process. And how does one pay departure taxes?

Thanks in advance :)


I've been Jumpseating to and from the UK for years. Took UAL from GLA to EWR just last week. Simply walk up to ticket counter and ask to jumpseat. They check you are CASS approved and ask for your credit card for the taxes. There is no JS form! I paid exactly $113.82 last week. (I have paid $200 out of LHR!).

Your stby ticket gets you through security until you get a seat assignment at the gate. No need to list on UAL. I'm not sure if you are at a regional or not. But, back in my regional days, we didn't have reciprocal JS agreements for "international" travel. Check your agreements!


Trent

Galaxydriver 09-21-2016 03:18 PM

DL PHL-LHR is generally half full.


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Turbosina 09-21-2016 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Trent900 (Post 2207875)
I've been Jumpseating to and from the UK for years. Took UAL from GLA to EWR just last week. Simply walk up to ticket counter and ask to jumpseat. They check you are CASS approved and ask for your credit card for the taxes. There is no JS form! I paid exactly $113.82 last week. (I have paid $200 out of LHR!).

Your stby ticket gets you through security until you get a seat assignment at the gate. No need to list on UAL. I'm not sure if you are at a regional or not. But, back in my regional days, we didn't have reciprocal JS agreements for "international" travel. Check your agreements!


Trent

That's a great point and raises another question. I'm a Skywest pilot, so I have nonrev bennies on both UA and DL. Of course, I know how to list as a nonrev on UA and DL; I've just never done it internationally.

But do I list as a nonrev or list as a jumpseater? How do I find out whether our agreements with UA/DL allow int'l jumpseating? I know I can't ride in the actual J/S, but is there any advantage to listing as a jumpseater vs. listing as a regular nonrev?

Lambourne 09-21-2016 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207924)
That's a great point and raises another question. I'm a Skywest pilot, so I have nonrev bennies on both UA and DL. Of course, I know how to list as a nonrev on UA and DL; I've just never done it internationally.

But do I list as a nonrev or list as a jumpseater? How do I find out whether our agreements with UA/DL allow int'l jumpseating? I know I can't ride in the actual J/S, but is there any advantage to listing as a jumpseater vs. listing as a regular nonrev?

Non rev you can get a F or J seat assignment. As a Jumpseat you will only get a Y seat assignment on UA.

Turbosina 09-21-2016 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 2207931)
Non rev you can get a F or J seat assignment. As a Jumpseat you will only get a Y seat assignment on UA.

Ah, good point! Non-rev it is, then. Thank you.

trip 09-21-2016 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207938)
Ah, good point! Non-rev it is, then. Thank you.

Non rev on UA is $$ in F class if your SKYW. I think you have 3-6 free travel days (yearly) on DL in any class to fly across the ponds.

Turbosina 09-21-2016 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2207961)
Non rev on UA is $$ in F class if your SKYW. I think you have 3-6 free travel days (yearly) on DL in any class to fly across the ponds.

Yup, on UA I'm pretty much going to fly coach class because 1) it's pricey to upgrade, and 2) you can never upgrade anyways, since UA tends to always have incredibly long eligible upgrade lists.

On DL I have a chance of sitting in business. Of course, DL doesn't do nonstop SFO-LHR, so the stress of making it onto four flights instead of two flights for the roundtrip...probably erases the benefits of sitting in business.


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