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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207982)

Yup, on UA I'm pretty much going to fly coach class because 1) it's pricey to upgrade, and 2) you can never upgrade anyways, since UA tends to always have incredibly long eligible upgrade lists.

On DL I have a chance of sitting in business. Of course, DL doesn't do nonstop SFO-LHR, so the stress of making it onto four flights instead of two flights for the roundtrip...probably erases the benefits of sitting in business.

International flights don't have the free upgrades. I see lots of non-revs in F and J to and from LHR and other International destinations. Just depends on the loads but non revs often get F and J

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Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 2207987)

International flights don't have the free upgrades. I see lots of non-revs in F and J to and from LHR and other International destinations. Just depends on the loads but non revs often get F and J

Ah! Interesting. Thank you, sir. I've done plenty of nonrevving and DH'ing on UA over the past few years and never have I once seen a domestic mainline UA flight depart with open seats in business/first. So that explains it...

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Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 2207931)

Non rev you can get a F or J seat assignment. As a Jumpseat you will only get a Y seat assignment on UA.

The gate agent may only be able to assign a Y seat to jump seaters on United, but hopefully the Captain is aware the FOM states that he may move jump seaters to any open seat he wishes.

I've Jumpseated on UA and DL internationally several times. They won't list you in first/business unless you have non rev privileges and list that way. However, if you have a way of checking the load and can determine if there WILL be open seats in first/business, I usually pick up some candy/snacks for the FAs and cockpit crew when I check in and I've been moved up several times once the door is closed.

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Originally Posted by shayden (Post 2208089)

The gate agent may only be able to assign a Y seat to jump seaters on United, but hopefully the Captain is aware the FOM states that he may move jump seaters to any open seat he wishes.

He may know but do the FA's

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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207475)

Very helpful, thank you!! One more question: when departing the UK, how does one obtain a boarding pass and get through security without an assigned seat? (Assuming I'm not on VS). I've never nonrevved internationally on a pax carrier so I'm not aware of the process. And how does one pay departure taxes?

Thanks in advance :)

It's similar to non rev in the US, you'll get a boarding pass with 'Seat Assigned at Gate' or similar on it. Don't attempt to use the automated customs machines, go to the human and tell them your on standby. it's all very simple and smooth. (Delta at least...)

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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2207924)

That's a great point and raises another question. I'm a Skywest pilot, so I have nonrev bennies on both UA and DL. Of course, I know how to list as a nonrev on UA and DL; I've just never done it internationally.

But do I list as a nonrev or list as a jumpseater? How do I find out whether our agreements with UA/DL allow int'l jumpseating? I know I can't ride in the actual J/S, but is there any advantage to listing as a jumpseater vs. listing as a regular nonrev?

Most Important question is whether you are travelling alone or with Family & how critical are the dates when you need to make the return.

When I travel alone, all I care is to touch US soil & I can JS my way home after that.

When I travel with family, the most difficult part is to figure out how to make it back with the family..

That's where Loads are important..

Based on my experience travelling abroad, I would choose departure points with more flight options rather than trying to save the $100 bucks on departure tax.

Flights can suddenly get oversold, weight restricted due to last minute cargo or numerous other issues beyond your control.

PS: As SKW, you also have access to UAL discount which puts you as a confirmed economy, very very useful if coming back with kids who need to be in school the next AM..